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Dean has it. It is the frame size. Look at the weights of those guns. The 12 gauge guns are very heavy, indicating maybe a #3 frame, which is a 2 1/2 in Parker shop language. Chuck, what does Dean win? By the way, for those of you that don't own a Serialization Book, the same information is on page 527 of The Parker Story. Good work, Dean. I spent five days in those books and couldn't figure it out.