Forum Proposal

[Mike Franzen]

Happy New Year to my Parker Bros and sisters! One of my favorite features of this site and a major benefit for members is the "Parker's for Sale" forum. We get to see guns for sale that the general population never sees. But, we are not getting to see all the great guns we could be seeing and having a chance to purchase. The reason being, there are members who refuse to list their guns on the forum because they don't like the nitpicking that can sometimes take place. Or, someone starts talking about their gun or one they saw just like it. I realize there are stipulations in the Rules about what is proper etiquette but, it's hard to monitor and there are many gray areas. My proposal would be to allow only the seller to post comments about the gun for sale. All questions and concerns could be handled by a "Ask Seller A Question" feature. If, it was pointed out that the serial number wasn't listed or the barrel length, etc, the seller could post the additional information. I believe this will make the forum much more user friendly and we will see guns that now are going to Gun Broker or other sites. I appreciate everything that the people who run this site do the members and non-members alike. This is not a criticism of anyone. Just something new to consider starting a new year.

[David Hamilton]

I would not wish for all comments to be restricted, but perhaps a policy of only discussing the gun offered and not bringing in extraneous information. Not a free-for-all but useful discussion. What I fear is that all the knowledge possessed by the members of this forum would be denied someone interested in a gun. David

[Kensal Rise]

I agree with Mike!

If you want more information on a gun, ask the seller through a PM. If he realizes that his audience needs that info, then it's up to him to publish it.

There is another double gun site with a "for sale" section that has fallen into absolute squalor from subjective and downright derogatory comments about items for sale. No one seems to care.

In my mind, PGCA is in a completely different category of gentlemanly respect. And should remain such.

Good idea Mike !!

[Mike Franzen]

David you make a valid point about valuable info on guns but what happens many times is opinions are put forth that aren't relevant. Valuable info can be had from every other forum on this site and facts and opinions are welcome. I agree with Scott that it should be between the seller and potential buyer.

[Mark Callanan]

Originally Posted by John Campbell

I agree with Mike!

If you want more information on a gun, ask the seller through a PM. If he realizes that his audience needs that info, then it's up to him to publish it.

There is another double gun site with a "for sale" section that has fallen into absolute squalor from subjective and downright derogatory comments about items for sale. No one seems to care.

In my mind, PGCA is in a completely different category of gentlemanly respect. And should remain such.

Good idea Mike !!

The parker site will never become what other site your are talking is
This site is well moderated which the other site is not
And the strength of the people on this site would never allow what is going on there
I feel back and forth discussion is important and shouldn’t be limited
And usually when a member goes to far all here know it and tend to disregard their input
I learn something new most every day on here from all posts including for sale posts
If something gets out of hand I am sure our moderators will be very quick to deal with it

[John D.]

Hi Mike,

This appears as the "Rules" at the top of that same area of the site that you reference:

Sticky: Listing For Sale Items...

Read that, and let me know what you think? It hasn't changed since I programmed that area of the forum - but is exactly to your point. Is it a "grey area" to moderate it? You bet...

Best to you,

John

[Mike Franzen]

Hi John,
I've read the Rules for the forum and they do address the issues. However, it puts the moderators in a tough spot when they have to interpret them and call someone out. I only make this proposal because I have heard from some of the members who will not list their guns and that's a fact. I think it's a shame because we all miss out. I ask would we rather have more commentary or more guns for us to consider selling and buying?

All that being said and regardless if this gets anywhere, this is THE BEST website and forum of it's kind on the web. You only have to go to some other site to realize how good we have it. The gentlemanly demeanor and vast knowledge shared here has probably done more for the Parker collecting and shooting community than anything else. Thanks John for all you have done and continue to do.

[Kensal Rise]

Mike:
Thank you. I'm equally grateful to you for being a part of the best double gun site in the world ! Perhaps I was too frank in my distaste for another venue.

Personally, I very much enjoy posting a few guns for sale here. Each and every time I've made new friends and have enjoyed a most cordial transaction. I urge others to join in the PGCA congeniality and post both knowledge and guns for others to consider.

[Dean Romig]

The "Members Only" section of the forum which is for the sale of guns by PGCA Members is a very valuable benefit to our members and nothing beats it - but for those who wish to offer a gun for sale exclusively to PGCA Members before advertising it anywhere else, where you can be sure not to get any irrelevant or negative chatter about it, is the Parker Pages "The Parker Marketplace" if you're not in a hurry to sell. Just sayin'.... and meaning no disrespect to the PGCA website, its administrator or moderators.

[Chris]

I have an issue with people posting in the "For Sale" are guns that they do not own. You see at least once a month a "Selling for a Friend...", this is against the rules but still flies by the Mods.