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Unread 10-23-2013, 08:53 PM   #11
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figure only two chokes are really needed:

a. none

b. modified

modern plastic wads made other chokes counter productive, cept for turkey hunters.
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Unread 10-23-2013, 08:57 PM   #12
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Maybe add a black plastic stock too?
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Unread 10-23-2013, 09:49 PM   #13
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You might think you don't need chokes, until you take up box birds.
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started to ask what was a box bird but it just hit me as to what they are... charlie
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Unread 10-24-2013, 06:36 AM   #15
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I put Briley thin chokes in a Trojan 20 gauge with cut barrels. That was probably 10 years go and the PGCA forum was much smaller then. Caught a lot of grief for my heresy. However, the gun has been a great shooter and I've taken everything from snipe to pheasant with her. Wouldn't recommend it for every gun but it can have its place. I also agree with Dean. Choke can be over rated. Or perhaps over thought. John
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I also agree with Dean. Choke can be over rated. Or perhaps over thought. John


John, I should have given you credit for that. We discussed that very topic at Addieville a few weeks ago and you're the one who made that "Choke, I think, is often overrated." statement to me. But my experiences with some guns has caused me to adopt that thought.
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Even box birds require some thought about chokes. In my debilitated condition and advanced age, I find that my favorite box bird gun has turned into a rifle for someone of my ability. I can't hit the first shot with a rifle and I can't hit the first shot with my old PHE trap. I will either start shooting spreaders in my right barrel or change guns. I never seem to slide much past the thirty yard line. At one shoot, I had a bad first five birds with my PHE, so I shot the last ten with one of my Evans game guns bored IC and MOD, about .010 and .025. I ran nine out of the last ten with a bird gun shooting target loads.
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Putting tubes in a vintage sxs makes me cringe but as Craig & Todd point out, if the barrels are already cut the damage is done. And as J.A. says, make sure you have enough wall thickness. When I see a gun available that has tubes added I generally run in other direction. My one Parker, two Elsies and few Foxes are all unmolested and will stay that way as long as I have them! Need different chokes? A built in excuse to buy another gun!!
I kinda gave up on the screw in thing after my gunsmith buddy advised me that damascus barrels are not very receptive to boring and threading .

And that kinda jogged my memory that I happen to have an old LC Smith Field Grade with sleaved barrels done by none other then Westley Richards . They're 26" but handle very nicely . Just gonna have to see how they do with 0 Buck at 25 and 40 yards .

Also have the Sterlingworth IC/M I got early in the summer and an Ithaca Minier I picked up two days ago !
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