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Eldon, that surely works for me and I know Charlie would agree. I got the idea from him. Unfortunately the City Market in Canon City, CO only had some new fangled 7.5 ounce cans of Dr. Pepper. I knew I could not see that size can at 70 yards. The little cans would make a dandy ground squirrel or prairie dog stand in at 300 yards for my 220 Swift or 22-250 though.