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paul i think a fellow is gonna look hard and long to be the reddot load in 10 ga..its the lowest grains of powder i ve seen used in a 10 ga load..and got plenty of power...i m even loading some 8 ga loads with it with just about 3 more grains added tt the 10 ga load.. i shot some 8 ga loads yesterday with it..fellow can load several more shells with useing reddot...charlie