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			I had it in my hands today. straight stock, SST, BTF 26 inch bbls choked skt/skt. A wonderfull VHE 28....now the craftyness begins 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	  And just to complicate things there is one I have my eye on at the Southern as well...a lovely CHE damascuss 20.....blood for sale (again) grade A O+  
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	"If there is a heaven it must have thinning aspen gold, and flighting woodcock, and a bird dog" GBE  | 
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			16 ga (any grade) Mod/Improved chokes - all day long
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			I'm a really avid ruffed grouse hunter and have been in search of the perfect grouse gun "for me" since I graduated from college in 1984. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	I think the perfect grouse gun for me is a 12 bore that weighs 6-1/4 - 6- 1/2 pounds. 28-30" barrels, straight grip, splinter forend. I like chokes of .003 & .007. I have not found such a combination in an American double so my ideals have been English like this H & H Royal. ![]() That said, I can't afford such guns so I only get to hunt with them when friends who can afford them visit and allow me to carry them. I hunt with a 1925 20 bore VHE with 28" barrels. I've never measured the chokes so I'm not sure what they are but when I walk in on my dogs point I have complete confidence that if I do my job, the Parker will do its. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()  
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			Jay, 
		
		
		
			looks to me as if you have the perfect gun. I dont think a light 12 would really be that much better. Like you, I have been searching for the perfect grouse gun since 1983, and have accumulated many good ones. My latest is a GH 16 O frame IC/M that will make its debut this fall--so far I am smitten! Last year it was a grade2 Ugartechea that was the magic wand ( 11 out of 15 in the 3 days it was carried on grouse). I , too, have a little VH 20 w/ 26' cyl/mod barrels that needs a few days in the grouse woods.ps, the gun is unloaded and not really pointed at my head!  | 
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			Harold, 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			I love that one as a dog picture 
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			Nice guns! And it looks like you had a great day of grouse shooting!
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			My new perfect Grouse gun is a Charles Boswell damascuss 20ga with straight stock, double triggers and ejectors. She's choked IC/M with 28 inch tubes and is a lith 5lbs 7oz which is 6oz lighter than my H&H 20 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	![]() I'm going to Duluth, MN for a shoot this weekend so I might just another perfect Grouse gun there  
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