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I have a few flats of these coming and I'm interested if anyone has seen them or reloaded them. It's a ONE piece wad/hull like a Gun Club/Nitro I believe which is not inconceivable since Vista owns them. I would ASSUME the load data is the same but wondering if anyone has had a chance to use them yet. If nobody has I'll post my experience after I put a few boxes through in the next week or two.