Steel Shot in Parkers

[MarketHunter]

This thread is a perfect example of why Bruce ruins so much of what goes on here. As I said, I remember the old days and the fun we used to have. There's half a dozen former regulars, people who were actually interesting, that won't post anymore strictly because of what he says and does. Friends in high places.....

DLH

[John D.]

Thank you, Bill... I have to admit - I am not perfect - and yep - sometimes I miss something. But when I get "hot under the collar", I'm usually pretty sure I'm on "good footing" - or try to be. And by the way - folks really - really have no idea what it is like to try to Admin a Forum like this.... Someday, you can ask Bruce, Destry - and many more - what it is like to be on the receiving end of a PM, phone call or e-mail if I believe they have stepped "over the line" on this forum..

It's not pretty - but - it is to the point....

Bill - thank you...

John

[Bruce Day]

HOLY COW!!!


Want to start over?

Hey guys! Tom Roster has an interesting article about steel shot in the latest Shooting Sportsman that may have some relevance to use in vintage guns and may warrant thoughtful discussions. How's that?

[Bruce Day]

Chris , may I invite you to come to Louisville and we can get together in person. I've never met you, never talked to you, don't think I have ever corresponded with you but I sense you harbor some ill will and maybe we can resolve that.

If you come to Louisville, that might be a perfect opportunity for you to share your photography collection with PGCA members. I'd be interested in seeing it.

[Bruce Day]

Come on, life is too short to have hard feelings. John does a great job and I would not have the patience to be accused the way he is.

I thought the new Roster article was interesting and thought it might generate some thoughtful discussion, but clearly not. If I could delete it, I would, but I suspect its been there too long. John, can you just delete this whole sordid thread? I'd hate to have an outsider read it and think this was how we treated each other.

[CHE]

Aw come on kids play nice!!!!! THE END

[Bill Murphy]

I'm sure Chris will email me the post that was deleted. No big deal when "to the point" posts are deleted if they are objectionable, but I like to know where everyone is coming from. Chris, I'm waiting for the news.

[John D.]

Originally Posted by Bill Murphy

I'm sure Chris will email me the post that was deleted. No big deal when "to the point" posts are deleted if they are objectionable, but I like to know where everyone is coming from. Chris, I'm waiting for the news.

If Chris has a post that was "deleted" or "removed" - I'd like to see it as well? I DID edit Destry's post (which I made public and posted) - and still have an original copy - as, again - I stated previously.

Best to you,

John

[Ed Blake]

Over on the Trapshooters.com website there have been several discussions about steel shot only trap clubs. Posters from the Napierville, IL (I think) club have been using steel for a number of years in all types of hi-dollar trap guns with tight chokes. They report no scarring of bores, bulges, etc. They use the appropriate wads and load about 1,200 fps. Shot size is #7. I have not read the Roster article, but these guys seem to know their stuff. They evidently worked up about 30 loads and had them tested for use by the members. Deadly from the 16, but they give up a little on handicap. Granted they are not using vintage guns, but it's food for thought.

[Robert Rzepiela]

Yes,Naperville club is steel shot only. Also our fall controlled hunting program requires non toxic shot only at few locations which pretty much means steel as most of folks will use whatever is the cheapest. Still, my modern guns user manuals state explicitly not to shoot steel thru full choke. Why would anyone want to risk ?