Question for the 10ga. Folks

[Matt Valinsky]

Originally Posted by Jeff Sweeter

I've got a few different 10s all with Damascus barrels I shoot them in.Seems like a mild load.I haven't patterned them but shot skeet with them and worked good.The bp1044 wads will likely have a little more pressure as the crush section is somewhat stiffer than the sp10 wad.The old sp10 wads had a thinner built crush section than the newer ones do and as a result created a little more pressure also.Tom Armbrust will verify this with tests he has done for me.If you were to substitute a ww209 primer for the cheddite primer,pressure and velocity would both likely be a little lower as the ww primer is a little milder.Ive got 1 1/4 oz loads I've had tested using long shot with similar velocity but lower pressures yet.I think I've posted some on here in the past.Jeff

Could you please repost the Long shot recipe? Thanks

[Dakota Jeff]

Here's the test I had done for 1 1/4oz. lead with longshot powder and the new bp 1044 wad.Longshot is a fine powder and the 1044 wad doesn't fit very tight in the hull so a gas seal was used to prevent powder migration.

[Matt Valinsky]

Thank you sir.

[24 grams]

Originally Posted by Jeff Sweeter

Here is a load I had tested at Precision if it helps you out.

Well, I have tried this one out with a variety of 16 gauge wad spacer combinations, and I still don't get very good crimps. (These are my first ten attempts from left to right).

1 1/8 ounce of 7 1/2s doesn't come close to filling the shot cup, and it seems to take closer to 5/8" or even 3/4" of spacing to work.

I have tried putting the fiber cushion in the bottom and the hard spacer on top, and I even tried putting some fiber spacer under the wad.

Does anyone have any tricks to share?

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[Dakota Jeff]

Are you using the x10x gas seal beneath the wad? They are approximately 1/8" thick? It looks like maybe too deep pre crimp by the marks in between the folds and with crimper set a bit too deep will cause the folds to swirl,grabbing too much of the hull to fold in.If on a Mec loader,raise the cam up a little.And with not enough filler this can easily happen.I have also used a 10 gauge hard card beneath the wad instead of the gas seal.It takes up about the same space and does the same job but this test was done with gas seal.One way or another you need a little more filler and adjust your crimper a little higher,or lighter.If you can't get it figured out ill dig out some components tomorrow and see exactly what is needed. The shells I loaded crimped nice.I don't remember if I loaded them on a Mec,or a PW. They both load nice shells.Jeff.

[Dean Romig]

Looks like you won't even be able to stuff #'s 2 & 3 into the chambers but I'l bet the others will go BANG!!





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[24 grams]

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They are definitely getting better.
This is number 14.

[24 grams]

It sure seems like 1 1/4 would make a tidier reload.
Boy would that be hell on doves!

[6pt-Sika]

Originally Posted by Steven Groh

It sure seems like 1 1/4 would make a tidier reload.
Boy would that be hell on doves!

Those are new unfired hulls correct ? The crimp for me atleast isn’t the best with unfired hulls but generally it gets better the next few loadings . To make the crimp more flat in the center you can do a couple things , the first is add more displacement items until you get it up more . The second thing is an overshot card under the crimp .

[J.B. Books]

Originally Posted by Steven Groh

Well, I have tried this one out with a variety of 16 gauge wad spacer combinations, and I still don't get very good crimps. (These are my first ten attempts from left to right).

1 1/8 ounce of 7 1/2s doesn't come close to filling the shot cup, and it seems to take closer to 5/8" or even 3/4" of spacing to work.

I have tried putting the fiber cushion in the bottom and the hard spacer on top, and I even tried putting some fiber spacer under the wad.

Does anyone have any tricks to share?

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Your goal should be to get your loads to look like the sixth shell from the left.

You need to be sure to have as much filler in the shot cup behind the shot as needed to get the shot column to about 1/4 of an inch below the mouth of the case for a fold crimp. Avoid putting anything over the shot except a very thin over shot card and if you want the best patterns don't put anything over the shot as it will disrupt the pattern even to the point of making a spreader load.

Brand new Cheddite hulls do not crimp as nice as other hulls, especially Federal. The more they are fired the better they get.

If your crimp is normal but has a hole in the center or is swirled and you are loading with a MEC single stage loader you need to adjust the cam.

https://www.ballisticproducts.com/bp...ust/mecadj.htm