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Old 01-19-2025, 10:12 AM   #11
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Rib stamping looks funny. Is it the photo?
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Old 01-19-2025, 10:28 AM   #12
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Those are the oddest looking keels I have ever seen. However, under magnification, the matting at the end looks like a continuation of the rest of the matting.
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Old 01-19-2025, 10:55 AM   #13
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Rib lifted and moved to the rear? keels look crude. Forend iron looks like it sustained some "fitting" as does the extension aka dolls head.
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Old 01-19-2025, 01:14 PM   #14
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I agree the rib stamping looks 'messed with' and it's possible the rib was lifted, shortened and relayed.
Keels look a mess, barrel maker must have been watching the clock, and not the work.
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Is it just me or does then end of the barrels not look square but at an angle?
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Old 01-19-2025, 03:08 PM   #16
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I hope to get the gun in hand soon and post additional information and pictures that may help in validating this gun. Thank you for all the responses.
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Old 01-19-2025, 03:29 PM   #17
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I normally don't chime in on originality based on pictures but those barrels look cut to me as they are too abrupt looking for lack of a better term. Keels look funky.
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I’ve seen keels like that before and the termination of the rib matting looks perfectly normal for a VH to me. The rib legend looks like it has been severely messed with.





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I'm rethinking the comment I made regarding the possibility that the rib was shortened and relayed. The end of the blank inscription area on all my guns is just at the junction of the rib and rib extension, so had the rib been shortened, the inscription area would have been cut off, which, despite appearing messed with, is just where it should be.
The other thing that is making me lean towards being uncut, is the view of the muzzle. If it had been cut, the chokes would have been removed, and the walls would have more or less equal, which they clearly are not.
The keels are sloppy, for sure, but keels only served two purposes. The main reason for steel keels at the muzzle was to aid in keeping the weight down, lead solder being roughly .409 lbs/cubic inch, and steel being .283 lbs/cubic inch. The other purpose was to simply aid in the soldering of the barrels and keeping the solder from flowing out the muzzle end.
TPS does indicate there were a few 22" 12 ga barrels, and probably more, in that the book for this gun is missing.
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Possibly the very first Parker Bros. Coach Gun??
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