Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums  

Go Back   Parker Gun Collectors Association Forums Parker Forums General Parker Discussions

Notices

Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
Inherited Parker info
Unread 11-24-2013, 12:24 PM   #1
Member
Alex Lambert
Forum Associate

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 6
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

Default Inherited Parker info

I'm looking for information on a gun that belonged to my grandfather, to whom it was passed down from his grandfather. I dont know much about this gun and just want some more info on it. I've tried to id it using the the Parker identification section of this site.

Serial: 78341 (1893)
Frame Size: 1
Barrel Weight: 4¹
Grade: C (I think)
Steel: Bernard




Thanks.














Alex Lambert is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-24-2013, 01:01 PM   #2
Member
Eldon Goddard
PGCA Lifetime
Member

Member Info
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 846
Thanks: 312
Thanked 390 Times in 170 Posts

Default

It is definitely a ch with Bernard steel. Do you know what gauge it is? What is the length of barrels?
Eldon Goddard is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-24-2013, 10:29 PM   #3
Member
Alex Lambert
Forum Associate

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 6
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

Default

I'm not sure how to tell the gauge. I can measure the barrel tomorrow to check the length. The gun seems in fairly decent condition except for the missing plate off the stock. I'm not interested in selling the gun but it would be nice to know the value and any additional info on this gun.

I know these forums are for Parker but there was also left an early model browning automatic rifle, not sure how to go about finding info on that gun. It seems a bit more difficult to disassemble than the Parker and I don't want to risk damaging it. It was manufactured by fabrique nationale(possibly ww2 era German?) under the browning patent and I think the serial number is 4 digits.

Thanks.
Alex Lambert is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-24-2013, 11:06 PM   #4
Member
Eldon Goddard
PGCA Lifetime
Member

Member Info
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 846
Thanks: 312
Thanked 390 Times in 170 Posts

Default

You should post this in another place not many people will see this in the single barrel trap forum.
Eldon Goddard is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-24-2013, 11:34 PM   #5
Member
Alex Lambert
Forum Associate

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 6
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

Default

Yeah, didn't make much sense to post in this section, especially since it's a double barrel. I'm not sure where it should go. Can a moderator move this thread?
Alex Lambert is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-25-2013, 03:27 AM   #6
Member
B. Dudley
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Brian Dudley's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 11,056
Thanks: 530
Thanked 19,704 Times in 4,969 Posts

Default

Is there any other part of the makers mark on the top rib? I see that the makers mark is hand engraved, which was not usually the case on Bernard barrels. Unless there was a custom inscription on it.
Great gun! Bernard C grades are beautiful. Yours looks like it has been well used, but it is all there and I am sure very operable.
Sometimes the gauge size was stamped on the locking lug. But yours is not. Do you have a set of dial calipers to measure the muzzle or chamber ID?
__________________
B. Dudley
Brian Dudley is offline   Reply With Quote
Visit Brian Dudley's homepage!
Unread 11-25-2013, 06:26 AM   #7
Member
Craig Larter
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Craig Larter's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,788
Thanks: 3,401
Thanked 11,845 Times in 1,856 Posts

Default

The Serialization book says 12ga 28" bbls
Craig Larter is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-25-2013, 07:07 AM   #8
Member
OH Osthaus
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Rick Losey's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 7,932
Thanks: 1,772
Thanked 8,544 Times in 3,345 Posts

Default

how are the bores- is there much pitting? and could you post some close ups of the stock? with the fit of the skeleton buttplate, I wonder if the stock is a replacement.

great piece of family history, if you give us a general idea of your location someone may be able to point you to someone to evaluate the condition and value.
__________________
"If there is a heaven it must have thinning aspen gold, and flighting woodcock, and a bird dog" GBE
Rick Losey is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-25-2013, 08:48 AM   #9
Member
Alex Lambert
Forum Associate

Member Info
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 6
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

Default

I can confirm the barrel is 28", the barrel appears to be smooth bore and I didn't see any pitting. I am in the St. Louis area if anyone has suggestions on where I could have the gun evaluated.

Here's some picture of the stock. There is a picture in the first post that shows the serial numbers matching from the water table and the piece that holds the barrel on.







This piece has been worn smooth, not sure what would have been on it.

Alex Lambert is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-25-2013, 08:52 AM   #10
Member
OH Osthaus
PGCA Lifetime
Member
 
Rick Losey's Avatar

Member Info
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 7,932
Thanks: 1,772
Thanked 8,544 Times in 3,345 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex Lambert View Post

This piece has been worn smooth, not sure what would have been on it.

from what is left, i would guess a stag, take a look at the "whats on your plate" thread for examples

I would expect to see "spear" points on the back of the side panels on an original CH stock
__________________
"If there is a heaven it must have thinning aspen gold, and flighting woodcock, and a bird dog" GBE
Rick Losey is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:23 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 1998 - 2025, Parkerguns.org
Copyright © 2004 Design par Megatekno
- 2008 style update 3.7 avec l'autorisation de son auteur par Stradfred.