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Alex Lambert 11-24-2013 12:24 PM

Inherited Parker info
 
I'm looking for information on a gun that belonged to my grandfather, to whom it was passed down from his grandfather. I dont know much about this gun and just want some more info on it. I've tried to id it using the the Parker identification section of this site.

Serial: 78341 (1893)
Frame Size: 1
Barrel Weight: 4¹
Grade: C (I think)
Steel: Bernard




Thanks.




http://i.imgur.com/53itttN.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/tIIOMsR.jpg
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Eldon Goddard 11-24-2013 01:01 PM

It is definitely a ch with Bernard steel. Do you know what gauge it is? What is the length of barrels?

Alex Lambert 11-24-2013 10:29 PM

I'm not sure how to tell the gauge. I can measure the barrel tomorrow to check the length. The gun seems in fairly decent condition except for the missing plate off the stock. I'm not interested in selling the gun but it would be nice to know the value and any additional info on this gun.

I know these forums are for Parker but there was also left an early model browning automatic rifle, not sure how to go about finding info on that gun. It seems a bit more difficult to disassemble than the Parker and I don't want to risk damaging it. It was manufactured by fabrique nationale(possibly ww2 era German?) under the browning patent and I think the serial number is 4 digits.

Thanks.

Eldon Goddard 11-24-2013 11:06 PM

You should post this in another place not many people will see this in the single barrel trap forum.

Alex Lambert 11-24-2013 11:34 PM

Yeah, didn't make much sense to post in this section, especially since it's a double barrel. I'm not sure where it should go. Can a moderator move this thread?

Brian Dudley 11-25-2013 03:27 AM

Is there any other part of the makers mark on the top rib? I see that the makers mark is hand engraved, which was not usually the case on Bernard barrels. Unless there was a custom inscription on it.
Great gun! Bernard C grades are beautiful. Yours looks like it has been well used, but it is all there and I am sure very operable.
Sometimes the gauge size was stamped on the locking lug. But yours is not. Do you have a set of dial calipers to measure the muzzle or chamber ID?

Craig Larter 11-25-2013 06:26 AM

The Serialization book says 12ga 28" bbls

Rick Losey 11-25-2013 07:07 AM

how are the bores- is there much pitting? and could you post some close ups of the stock? with the fit of the skeleton buttplate, I wonder if the stock is a replacement.

great piece of family history, if you give us a general idea of your location someone may be able to point you to someone to evaluate the condition and value.

Alex Lambert 11-25-2013 08:48 AM

I can confirm the barrel is 28", the barrel appears to be smooth bore and I didn't see any pitting. I am in the St. Louis area if anyone has suggestions on where I could have the gun evaluated.

Here's some picture of the stock. There is a picture in the first post that shows the serial numbers matching from the water table and the piece that holds the barrel on.

http://i.imgur.com/R4XNtU2.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/BA0MkFZ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/OUIYJtL.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/yHvpf0G.jpg


This piece has been worn smooth, not sure what would have been on it.

http://i.imgur.com/pfTHqxu.jpg

Rick Losey 11-25-2013 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Lambert (Post 121599)

This piece has been worn smooth, not sure what would have been on it.


from what is left, i would guess a stag, take a look at the "whats on your plate" thread for examples

I would expect to see "spear" points on the back of the side panels on an original CH stock


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