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Mark Landskov 09-15-2013 09:14 PM

Dennis, my Greener has a single trigger and was made in 1894. It was a gun Harry Greener kept 'in-house' as a platform for developing his various single trigger mechanisms. The gun was never proofed officially and was never retailed.

Dennis V. Nix 09-15-2013 09:27 PM

Todd, on a side by side with barrels choked the same what is the point of two triggers. To really get into a discussion what would ever be the point of having a double with both barrels choked the same. You would certainly lose the advantage of instant choke selection. No argument here on whatever each of us chooses to use but we all have choices of whatever makes us feel comfortable. For some it is a single trigger and for others a double trigger. I don't think one is a better choice than the other just different.

Dennis

Dennis V. Nix 09-15-2013 09:28 PM

Roundsworth, that is a gun worth having and shooting. Congratulations.

Dennis

Bill Murphy 09-15-2013 09:35 PM

A gun with two triggers and the same choke in each barrel is not much of a mystery. The two trigger choice is because it goes bang every time the trigger is pulled. That is not always the result in a single trigger gun.

Rich Anderson 09-15-2013 10:06 PM

I grew up on single trigger guns and the best way to get used to DT is to have a proper gun fit. I have a couple of Parkers with SST as well as my H&H 20 and have had no problems with any of them.

I hunt with a pointing dog and have never switched either barrels or triggers for the first shot. I recall a target presentation at the Southern where the first bird was farther out and I used the back trigger first but it would have been just as easy to select the left barrel with a SST gun.

todd allen 09-15-2013 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dennis V. Nix (Post 115380)
Todd, on a side by side with barrels choked the same what is the point of two triggers. To really get into a discussion what would ever be the point of having a double with both barrels choked the same. You would certainly lose the advantage of instant choke selection. No argument here on whatever each of us chooses to use but we all have choices of whatever makes us feel comfortable. For some it is a single trigger and for others a double trigger. I don't think one is a better choice than the other just different.

Dennis

Ideally, a double trigger gun has different chokes, where typically, the front trigger is the open choke, and the back trigger sets off the tighter choked barrel.
One of my favorites is a BHE choked 6k right bbl, 40k left bbl. Switching from Skeet to Full is instantanious
In contrast, my live bird gun with has a Miller trigger, and is full/full. (and no safety)
The closest you will come to magic in a field gun, is straight grip, double trigger gun, choked Skeet/Mod, or Cyl/Lt Mod.

Fred Verry 09-16-2013 02:54 AM

SST Development
 
Kenny, according to W.W. Greener (The Gun and Its Development), the single trigger on a "double-barrelled" gun appeared at least as early as the late 17th century. Greener stated "the single trigger undoubtedly possesses advantages over the two-trigger gun, principally the facility with which two barrels can be fired in rapid succession; the same length of stock is secured (LOP)-with most mechanisms- for both barrels, and there is no necessity to relax the grip of the stock. What these advantages mean to the sportsman can only be fully appreciated by a fair trial at game."

For gun manufacturers the choice was simple, the competition had them, people wanted them and were willing to pay.

Daryl Corona 09-21-2013 06:36 PM

This is a great thread. I agree with just about all the posters and particularly with Todd. I too feel that SK or Cyl and Mod or Full are just about the perfect combo for a field or target gun. Shooters in the early 20th century must have also felt this way as there are a lot of guns choked open/tight. I love double triggers for their dependability. When I was younger I sought out single trigger Parkers because that's what I was used to. Now, I know that DT guns were the choice of many, many shooters of that era. Must have been a good reason for that.

Bill Murphy 09-21-2013 06:39 PM

They go "off" every time you pull one of the triggers. The single trigger, not always.

Fred Verry 09-22-2013 08:57 AM

SST
 
Bill, you must be talking about properly cocked hammer guns. I cannot remember the last sxs shoot I was at where I did not see a target launched, and some shooter with a double trigger hammerless gun swing on it, pull on the trigger and when nothing happens say something about the "damn safety". I am often one of them. :banghead: Most reliable shotgun: single barrel hand cannon with large touch hole and kerosene torch. Every device added after that increased the probability of mechanical and/or operator failure.


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