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Dave Noreen 03-09-2025 01:19 PM

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So are we saying since it wasn’t a custom ordered gun it would have had the cataloged
checkered butt and not a butt plate?
Yes. At least this part of we is. The rest are free to believe as they wish. A lot can happen in the 91 years since the gun in question was built.

Bill Murphy 03-10-2025 07:51 AM

The two Tournament Grade 21s pictured in this thread are the only two I've seen in sixty years of collecting Model 21s.

James L. Martin 03-10-2025 10:03 AM

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Bill , My Tournament grade also has double triggers and a splinter forearm. It does not have a normal 21 look. Plus it has a stock oval. Plus selective ejectors.

Dave Noreen 03-10-2025 01:19 PM

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Great honest gun there James, thanks for sharing. Looks like it would be right at home over a brace of quail dogs.

I have no knowledge of how many of what Winchester built in Model 21s, but I've seen a lot more Model 21 Tournament Grade Skeet Guns than I have Model 21 Tournament Grades. From the introduction of the Model 21 Skeet Gun through 1935 the Tournament Grade was the entry level skeet gun. Here are the Tournament Grade prices from February 24, 1934 --

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The Model 21 Tournament Grade from the big 1934 Winchester Catalog --

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The Model 21 Tournament Grade from the 1934 Winchester Pocket Catalog --

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Bill Murphy 03-11-2025 08:40 AM

Sorry, in my previous post I meant that these on this thread are the only Tournament Grades with buttplates. I have seen and owned many Tournament Grades with checkered wood butts.

William Woods 03-12-2025 10:43 AM

I found my model 21 letter from Cody. My model G2188B, 20 gauge from 1946 mentions checkered butt plate.

Mr. Noreen (I believe) clarified a question I had long had. While the letter stated my shotgun as Standard grade, this gun was clearly marked Skeet on the trigger plate. I was unaware that the model 21 Skeet gun could be ordered in the Standard, Tournament, Trap, or Custom grades.

I am glad that there are so many on this site that have a passion for these fine old shotguns and are willing to share their knowledge.

matt koepnick 03-12-2025 05:37 PM

As a relative newbie to Win 21's, I have developed a growing interest of obtaining these, as most of the older ones have DT's and perfect dimensions for me. Wished I'd done this sooner than at 68... Working on number 3, hopefully this year.
Mattly

Bobby Cash 03-12-2025 07:08 PM

I find the older double triggered guns just don't fit me well. I've had two 20's and a 16.
All were hovering around 6 pounds. Pitch is all wrong for my girlish (read girth-ish) figure.
I didn't have the heart to cut the stocks and ream out the chokes. Plenty of Model 21 Skeet guns without ruining these.

https://i.imgur.com/ecVyupr.jpg

Bill Murphy 03-13-2025 07:50 AM

Old double trigger, canoe paddle stocked Model 21s have become a cult item and are going up in price.


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