New (To me) parker

[wayne goerres]

I have just bought another parker. Its a 12 ga D grade with 30 in damaskus barrels. Sorry I dont have the frame size yet. Kind have bought it sight unseen.Should be heer in a couple of weeks. Question, the but plate was advertised as skeloton but when the owner (who I know well) discribed it over the phone he discribed it as solid with checkering. I am not a parker expert but I haven't seen a D grade with that type of but plate. what do you guys think.

[Dean Romig]

Let's wait until you get the gun then you'll know for sure. Show us pictures if you have any doubts about it.

[Brian Dudley]

Sounds like he is either not describing it correctly, or it has something different on it. Would love to see pics when you get it.

[wayne goerres]

Brian it soundes to me like the stock has been cut back and a new steel but plate was added. He says the lenth of pull is 13 1/2 so I wouldnt be surprised if it is cut back. I believe I bought the gun for a reasonable price so I am not real concerned about it. By the way thanks for the ten gauge parts in case I forgot.

[Brian Dudley]

No problem at all. At that LOP it was most likely shortened, but you never know. The gun could have been ordered with a short stock. A classic recoil pad would bring that LOP back out to a reasonable length.

[wayne goerres]

What is the standard lenth of pull on modern shootguns now a days 14 3/8. my fox has a 15 in and it is probable a good 1 in to long for winter clothes. Im 5'8"in and I cant sholder it properly. Going by the only picture iv'e seen this gun has nice wood but needs the checkering chased and the stock refinished. May have to talk to you later about that. Cant wait to see this gun in person.

[George Lander]

Wayne: It is my understanding that a checkered butt was an option provided by Parker Bros. on grades D (3) & higher. I have a DHE 20 gauge that I purchased in England that the research letter states was ordered with a checkered butt.

Best Regards, George

[Brian Dudley]

Around 14" LOP is considered standard. A bit shorter would be acceptable if used with thicker clothes.

[wayne goerres]

this is going to be interesting. I may have to get a letter.

[wayne goerres]

Recieved my parker D grade today. It is not exactly a thing of bueaty. All finishes are pretty much gone. No color case left but engraveing is strong. Damascus barrels are all silver. I cant seem to seperate the Barrels fron the frame. any sugestionswould be appreciated. As for the checkerd but pad I am not sure if it is original,I will try to borrow my daughters camera and post pictures(if I can figure it out. Serial no 75117

[George Lander]

Wayne: I reccommend that you take your Parker to a qualified gunsmith for disassembly & cleaning, Possibly it is just stuck with old grease etc., but you may damage it by trying to force it open.

Best Regards, George

[Brian Dudley]

If the forend is off and the barrels open but just do not come unhooked, then your unhooking slide is not working correctly.
It could be gummed up or have a broken spring. This is not an uncommon issue on the hammerless Parkers.
The trigger plate will have to be removed in order to get the barrels off.

[charlie cleveland]

wayne make sure hammers are cocked.. now take off the foreend....then snap the hammers down as if shooting it...this wont hurt the gun.. now unbritch the gun barrels should come rite off... i have an old ten ph that i have to do this erery time i take the barrels off.... charlie

[wayne goerres]

Thanks fellows. I pulled the gun completely apart and cleaned everything. Am putting it back togeather now. Still no luck. Have to remove the screw that holds the movabale hook on the barrel to get a part. It will snap back togeather with no problem, but then you cant remove the barrels again. there are no broken springs that I can see and everything is clean and moving freely. What is the pin protruding through the front of the frame. It is spring loaded and when you put the forearm on it pushes it in.

[Brian Dudley]

Wayne,

The pin prodruding out of the front of the frame is the unhooking pin. This pin is what pushes on the unhooking slide in the trigger plate. This pin should be sticking out when the forend is off. With the forend off, you should be able to push in on it with your finger and it should spring back. If it pushes in very easily then the unhooking slide is stuck most likely. If all is working correctly, it will push in but be firmer to the touch because you are also pushing on the unhooking slide.

I am surprised you were able to pull the cocking hook screw with the barrels on. Most of the time, this screw head will not clear the water table when the breech is opened.

Like I said previously, most likely you have a gummed up unhooking slide, or a broken slide spring. I recently repaired a Trojan that was very clean inside, but it would not unhook. Sure enough when I took the unhooking slide out and removed the pin from the back of it, the small spring was in about 8 pieces. It had a little movement still with the broken spring, but not enough to unhook the barrels.

Another note, is that if someone has been into the gun before, if the set screw for the unhooking slide was over tightened, that can also cause the slide to stick.

[wayne goerres]

Hello Brian. The pin that runs through the frame seems to work properly. it moves smothly and is under spring tenshion. The gun is a real bear to reassemble. I did not see any kind of a set screw. Is the spring your talking about in a little cylinder that is recessed into the trigger plate. I probably will not dissamble again. the first time gave me a headach.

[Brian Dudley]

Wayne, Yes, the small spring is in the unhooking slide, which is in the trigger plate. The set screw I mentioned is also in the trigger plate.

[wayne goerres]

I am going to try to take the gun to my daughters tomorrow and take some pictures. Maby some one can tell me weather the but plate is correct. May try to rebrown the barrels,havnt decided yet the gun should still make a good shooter. Because of the way the but plate is made(with the little protrusion at the top) I think I will add a slip on pad to lenthen the Lop out to 14 1/2". Brian I will try to get deseant pictures of the checkering. See if you think it is worth recheckering. thanks.

[wayne goerres]

Hi fellows. Tryed to post pictures today but I had no luck (witch is not a surprise because I am computor eliterate). What is a surprise is that my daughter could,nt make it work either. Any help from any body would be appreciated. thanks

[Rick Losey]

Hi fellows. Tryed to post pictures today but I had no luck (witch is not a surprise because I am computor eliterate). What is a surprise is that my daughter could,nt make it work either. Any help from any body would be appreciated. thanks

do you have them stored on a photo sharing site like photobucket?

if so - open the picture there - right click and copy the properties - or copy the address from the HTTP window

then with the cursor in the reply window - click on the pale yellow square image above that has the mountains and sun in it

paste the copied properties/address into the spot for it-- and click OK.

or paste the address between a and - same thing



or
http://parkerguns.org/forums/faq.php?faq=vb3_reading_posting#faq_vb3_attachment s

[Robin Lewis]

or


Want to learn how to post your picture on the PGCA forum? Watch the videos below.... Here are two links to video's that:


Shows how to get a picture that is to large to upload resized so it will. (http://www.parkerguns.org/pages/faq/DemoMovie/PlayResizePictureVedio.html)
Shows how to upload a picture into a forum thread. (http://www.parkerguns.org/pages/faq/DemoMovie/PlayUploadPictureVedio.html)

[wayne goerres]

s1290.beta.photobucket.com/user/wayne

[Rick Losey]

hmm


you should have the http:// in the front

but a picture address should look like this - ending with the .jpg

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg195/setterw/cover.jpg

with the brackets added it comes out like

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg195/setterw/cover.jpg

[wayne goerres]

Sorry fellows but I've been trying on and off all day long to make this work with out sucess. Thanks for the vidio but I still do'nt understand what file or pic size you are selecting or how your selecting it,right click ,cut,coppy,properties, exc. My computor is opperating on windows seven. maby that is what is wrong. As for photobucket I cant come up with an address anything close to what is being suggested. May not be looking in the right place.

[Rick Losey]

Wayne

check your pm's

[Rick Losey]

OK Wayne - here you go
the first pictures address is

http: //1290.photobucket.com/albums/b526/waynegoerres/pictures545.jpg
(I added the two spaces after http: to make it show)

if I put a in front and a behind

we get

http://1290.photobucket.com/albums/b526/waynegoerres/pictures545.jpg?t=1351256535

http://1290.photobucket.com/albums/b526/waynegoerres/pictures538.jpg

http://1290.photobucket.com/albums/b526/waynegoerres/pictures537.jpg

http://1290.photobucket.com/albums/b526/waynegoerres/pictures535.jpg

http://1290.photobucket.com/albums/b526/waynegoerres/pictures534.jpg

http://1290.photobucket.com/albums/b526/waynegoerres/pictures533.jpg

http://1290.photobucket.com/albums/b526/waynegoerres/pictures532.jpg

http://1290.photobucket.com/albums/b526/waynegoerres/pictures531.jpg

http://1290.photobucket.com/albums/b526/waynegoerres/pictures530.jpg

[Brian Dudley]

The photos are not showing up, on my end at least.

[Craig Parker]

http://s1290.photobucket.com/albums/b526/waynegoerres/

[Brian Dudley]

That looks like well used that has a lot of life left in it and has a lot of potential. Nice to see pics of it. As suspected, that buttplate is not correct. That is a Winchester style plate. I actually just put the same plate on a Mauser spotter I am finishing up. Maybe this gun had a ssbp originally and the owner wanted a solid plate put on it so they worked with the original butt end and put that plate on it. Mat not be able to be salvaged back to a ssbp due to loss of lop. But a period correct recoil pad would be nice if this buttplate bothers you.

[Rick Losey]

thanks Craig - i was having issue with the laptop last night so tried to do it by modifying the mobile site address from the phone :rolleyes:

[wayne goerres]

Thank you gentlemen for working so hard to get the pictures on the forum. I could not make it work no matter what I tried. I was afraid the but plate was not original. Brian, could the checkering be chased on this stock to make it look better. Was thinking about refinishing the stocks and recoloring the damascus barrels. Buy the way the animal laying in the floor is not part of the daly bag limet. It is just my daughters cat.

[Brian Dudley]

Wayne,
Sure thing. The checkering can be cleaned up to be like new on that dh.
Check out my album showing the gh checkering recut. That will give u an idea on what can be done.

[Stephen Hodges]

Here you go: