WOW!!

[Angel Cruz]

CHECK OUT THIS BEAUTY!!!! AND AT A GREAT PRICE IN MY OPINION...
I CAN'T GET TO THE LINK TO WORK BUT TAKE A LOOK AT THE NEW PARKER UNDER USED GUNS
Parker - 1776-1876 Commemmorative
$14,500.00
12 ga, 2 1/2" chambers, Double trigger, Semi-Pistol Grip, Splinter forend, Weight 7 lbs, 7 ozs, Cast
http://www.griffinhowe.com/usedgun-sg.cfm

[Larry Frey]

Mfg 1876. Early Parker "lifter" action, made to commemorate the 100th anniversary of the American Revolution 1776-1876.

Were do they get that bit of information?:rolleyes:

[Angel Cruz]

Man, I was just looking at the beautiful engraving and in great condition.

[Dean Romig]

So I guess an early graded lifter with a "coin finish" isn't so bad after all.

[Angel Cruz]

What do you mean by "coin finish"??

[Rick Losey]

What do you mean by "coin finish"??

Angel, thats a polished silver finish on a receiver


Either that or all the coin in your pocket is finished if you buy it

[George Lander]

It's a beautiful Parker, but they don't give the SN, so we can't see if it started life that way.

Best Regards, George

[Angel Cruz]

Angel, thats a polished silver finish on a receiver


Either that or all the coin in your pocket is finished if you buy it

....:rotf:

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

Guys, The ser # is 6966, I called for more info he will be back to me tomorrow I ask how he knew the gun was a commemorative he said the owner said it was. I ask for more documentation on that. The serialization book says it is an O grade with twist brls and straight stock but it has been known to be wrong before! Gary

[Bill Murphy]

Is it on any of lists of special guns in TPS? Bob Beach is a good friend of ours. I think our researcher can give us a peak at the order book entry. Looks like at least a B, maybe an A judging by the stepped lock plates.

[Angel Cruz]

I wish my O grade would look like that..

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

Bill, I have not checked the Parker Story, the gentleman that owns it has sold some nice Parkers to some of our members before. they were all original guns, would like to know exactly what it is original or upgrade hard to believe it would be the latter. I agree it looks like a grade 5 or 6 with the gold on the grip! Gary

[Angel Cruz]

Gary, I don't know anything, but there's no way it could be an upgrade. Just look at the breach balls. Did you notice the birds in the panels behind the hammers?
Just think, if this were to be an upgrade, the guy that did it is a true master.

[Dean Romig]

Book says it is a TO which is a 0-Grade with Twist barrels.

This is a shining example of when the "book" is wrong.

However, I can see where the confusion might lie in attempting to grade the gun by the barrel steel listed in the order book.
The subject gun does not have the typical Damascus Steel barrels that were normally used on most Parkers of Grades-1 or 2 and on up the grade scale. This gun has a type of Laminated or Twist barrels used on very few of the higher graded guns of the day and was probably shown in the order book as Twist but this is obviously a Grade-6 or A Grade Parker. A few thousand guns earlier it would have been a $300 grade.

See the picture of another higher grade Parker with similar barrels.

....nuts!! oversized!


See an earlier discussion of this type of barrel steel here http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=5520&highlight=english+Laminated

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[calvin humburg]

WOW is right that is very pretty!!! Thats what dreams are made off.

[Brian Dudley]

That bold engraving near the back of the lock plates almost makes it look like the plates are raised in that area. Much like the top grade Lefevers were. What a trick to the eye.

[Dave Suponski]

Brian, The lock plates on high grade Parker hammerguns are indeed stepped.

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

Well, I did not get in till late and missed my call from G&H called and the guy had left for the day but john said he had a few pages of info on it for me will call Thur morn and let everyone know what I find out! Gary

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

I did put in a call to Chuck Bishop yesterday to see if he could shed some light on it for me but have not heard anything yet. I know he is busy. gary

[Bill Murphy]

Brian, the steps on those sideplates are not a trick of the camera. They are for real.

[Rich Anderson]

Angel you can have your O grade look like that. I know just the engraver that can do it for you.

[Angel Cruz]

Rich, I could probably buy another low grade Parker for the price of that type of engraving.
By the way, I also thought the step on the side plates was an engraving mirage. If I had another 7000.00 that gun would be mine by now.

[Bill Murphy]

Anyone look up this number in The Parker Story yet? I'm not home, can't do it.

[Dave Suponski]

According to TPS 6966 D6 Underlifter Pistol grip 10 gauge 28" barrels.

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

The mystery goes on! The TPS and SER Bk have different descriptions of the gun

[Robin Lewis]

In this case I think the gun is the deciding factor. It looks like a nice $250 grade to me and I think the books are in error. It would be interesting to see a letter on it.

I do not buy the 1776 - 1876 centennial comments.

[Bill Murphy]

On another thread, Bruce Day states that these are not stepped sideplates. I stand corrected. I sure would like to see a picture of that buttplate. Solid steel or skeleton?

[Angel Cruz]

We're all blind. Several pictures show the sideplates are not stepped.

[Charlie]

6966 is a D6 listed in TPS as a gun for the 1876 show -- see Chapter on Show Guns. The lists of show guns came from special lists that Parker kept, not the stock books or order books (as I recall). Maybe 6966 started life as a lower grade and was recorded as such in the stock book (source of the Serialization data). A study of data in the stock book and order books may help explain. I have never seen a Parker sidelock with such steps.
Charlie Price

[Dave Suponski]

I stand corrected. Thanks everyone for the clarification.

[Chuck Bishop]

It's the real deal. It was made for the 1876 centennial and is so noted in the stock book. It's one of 5 D6"s sold to the Parker Bros store in NY for $300 along with other lesser grade guns for the centennial. There is a notation for each of these guns being for the centennial in the stock book.

It's a 12ga, 28" barrels, 7 1/2lbs, 14 1/4" pull, full choked, pistol grip.

[Angel Cruz]

I can't believe it does not have a "Sale Pending" sign.

[Angel Cruz]

Here you go.. it is a skeleton butt plate. Just no picture.
http://www.gunsinternational.com/Parker-1776-1876-Commemmorative-12-ga.cfm?gun_id=100265856

[Gary Carmichael Sr]

There has a bulge 3" from muzzle on left brl. Bores measure 754=755!

[E Robert Fabian]

It has some serous drop at comb, 2 1/8

[edgarspencer]

We're all blind. Several pictures show the sideplates are not stepped.
I've seen lots of paintings which used Trompe L'Oeil to create depth, but this is the first time I've seen the work of an engraver employing the technique.
Very beautiful gun, that's for certain.

[Dean Romig]

If the lock plates were stepped I would expect to see the step continued into the wood, and it is not.

[edgarspencer]

Exactly, Dean. I picked up on that, admittedly after many oogles.

[Bill Murphy]

Gary, as you know, the bore diameter is within limits for early guns. As for the steps, we will have to wait for a fingernail test from the first one of us to actually inspect the gun. I'm willing to wait.

[Rich Anderson]

Angel she's waiting on you to finish the adoption papers. to speed things along I just happen to know a foster home for a certain straight grip 16ga hammer gun:)

[Angel Cruz]

:rotf:
Rich, I would have to sell most of my humble collection.

[Angel Cruz]

Okay, besides the bulge on the left bbl. Why is this gun not selling? Isn't this like one of a kind?
The bulge is an easy fix and it's in a good place. If there's ever a good spot for a bulge.

[Rich Anderson]

I think for the majority of the people out there don't have the inside track as to it's provanance and that coupled with spending almost $15K of discretionary income that may or may not be quite so discretionary at the end of the day.

As I said it's just waiting for you.

[Angel Cruz]

Even without the provinance. This gun is just beautiful!!! But I'm still broke...

[calvin humburg]

I've herd the barrels are pitted???

[Bill Murphy]

Anyone who thinks the gun is not spoken for should try to get G&H to charge their credit card for the cost of the gun. Just saying. That is a pretty good test of sold or not sold, unless you are dealing with Cabela's.

[Rich Anderson]

Bill give them a call with your numbers and report bck to us:whistle:
I'd do it myself but all my discretionary funds and funds that dont know there discretionary are spoken for.

[Bill Murphy]

This gun isn't being given the respect it deserves, but, then, there is a lot of stuff for sale out there. My opinion is that using a fat checkbook to build a collection is becoming as boring for the check writers as it has been for those who watch them work.

[Dean Romig]

I think someone really needs to handle it and appreciate it for what it is. Look for whatever flaws there might be and dismiss the gun or fall in love with it and strike a deal. After all, it is a Grade 6 and those are few and far between. Grade 6 hammerless Parkers in the right condition bring $20K and more and I think a hammer gun in equal condition is, in many ways, more charming or at least as desirable as a hammerless. This one won't last much longer in my opinion... somebody will fall in love with her and bring her home with him.

[calvin humburg]

You are right Dean, now if I only had a fat checkbook! Little tlc and what a gun she is. I might have it casecolored and Barrels blacked but only a dream. Gotta love those Hammer Guns.

[Angel Cruz]

Too bad, no fat check book here. But I'm in love!!

[edgarspencer]

Others may disagree, but I think this gun is priced well below where it ought to be. If a guy could trust his partners, a couple ought to get together, share it for awhile, and, assuming one didn't kill the other, pass it on for a profit.

[Bill Murphy]

Well, it seems that my friends Edgar and Dean and I are on the same page. As I implied earlier, I think the gun is probably already spoken for.

[Paul Stafford]

This gun has your name all over it Angel!!!

[Angel Cruz]

Now all I have to do is come up with 14,500.00 but I would only offer him
13000.00:)

[Rich Anderson]

I know where you can find part of it, it's all downhill from there. i'd be happy to get you started after all what are friends for?

[Angel Cruz]

It's good to know who your friends are!!:rotf:

[Angel Cruz]

Okay, who got her?? Shes' gone!!

[Bill Murphy]

As I implied earlier, "she" has been gone for quite a while.

[Rich Anderson]

Bill do you have insider info?

[Eric Estes]

Are you "her" new caretaker Bill?

[Paul Stafford]

I wanted to be but she was not available. I hope the right person won her! It is an amazing gun!

[Richard Flanders]

I tried early this morning also... too late... oh well.

[Bill Murphy]

No inside information, just an exceptional gun for a fair price. I'm sure it was gone the first day it appeared.

[Paul Stafford]

Did the owner come forward yet?

[Bill Murphy]

I guess I started a bit of a furor when I stated that the lockplates were stepped. I got a lot of slaps on the back of my head from many posters. However, gentlemen that they are, they left their posts in place, wrong or not. That is, except for Bruce, who can't stand to be in error, however minor the error. Under the new system, he would have had to contact the webmaster to have his post deleted. Bruce, what is wrong with being wrong? Deleting posts is a very impolite and disrespectful action on internet forums. It confuses the continuity of the thread and only makes you look bad. Why do you continue to do it after years of being chastised for your bad behavior? How about reinserting your post that gave me a good whack for daring to imply that Parker made stepped sideplates? You've done it before and you'll do it again, and many of us are getting a bit tired of it. I'm not here to make friends, I'm here to share my knowledge and help people buy good guns. What are you here for?