Factory recoil pad with "spur"

[Tom Wyraz]

I have a high grade Parker gun (circa 1906) which "letters" with a Silver's recoil pad. The pad that is currently on the gun is a much newer replacement (probably late 60s/early 70s). There is a spot inletted at the top of the heel of the stock for a "spur" or widow's peak.

My question is this, did the Parker factory fit recoil pads to some of their guns which had the "spur"? I seem to remember seeing such guns/pads.

Thanks.....Tom

[Dean Romig]

Tom, I'll take a look at my 1908 28 ga. DHE with the 'lettered' Silvers pad tonight and let you know.

Best, Dean

[Craig Larter]

The Silver Pad does not letter on my CHE but it sure looks like it has been there for a long time and it does have the spur.
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t2/clarter/parker-spur.jpg

[Rick Losey]

You can still get a pad with the spur if you are looking to replace the existing one, I got one from Galazans not long ago.

[George Blair]

You can still get a pad with the spur if you are looking to replace the existing one, I got one from Galazans not long ago.

But the spur will be too small. You will need to use acuraglass to fill the void around the Galazan spur, which is about a third of the origional size.

[Rick Losey]

But the spur will be too small. You will need to use acuraglass to fill the void around the Galazan spur, which is about a third of the origional size.

ahh - nice to know- mine went on a different kind of gun and was a perfect fit.

[Dean Romig]

No spur on this original Silvers pad, however, the stock was made to fit a smallish lady and LOP was 13" according to the letter (it is now 12 3/4" due to the flattened pad) so I'm sure the wood was cut down and the pad added without inletting for a spur.

[Wayne Owens]

This is a pad off of a 1905 C grade hammer gun. I believe this pad is original since the letter states a 14 1/4" length of pull and this is 1/16" under that dimension. The letter does not mention the kind of butt.

[Dave Suponski]

Wayne, How about pictures of the rest on the gun?.........Please!

[Jared Valeski]

Here's my 1905 DHE 12 ga. safety delete straight grip with Silvers pad and all letter.

[Tom Wyraz]

Thanks very much for the input and pix fellas..... Keep those cards and letters coming. So I'm wondering, do "we" think that the Parker factory used recoil pads with "spurs"......or not??

tjw

[Dean Romig]

I believe both types were installed by Parker Bros. in Meriden, depending on what was ordered and what the stocker had to work with. Certainly this small sampling is inconclusive at best. More often than not however, I believe when a gun was ordered with a recoil pad the stock would have to have been cut to add the pad and still attain the LOP that the gun would have been ordered with, thereby eliminating any relief that would have been cut into the wood to allow for the 'standard for the grade' spurred buttplate. This would not likely have been the case for the higher grades which normally would have had a skeleton steel butt plate as these would have been cut and fitted to meet the requirements of a particular order and the lower grades with spurred "hard rubber" dog's head butt plates would have been produced in runs for inventory.

[Wayne Owens]

Dave,
Here are a few pictures of the C grade.

[Jeff Kuss]

Why do you think that the engravers could do such a great job on the dogs, and a so so job on the ducks? Great gun by the way.

[Dean Romig]

What ducks....?

But check out those wonderful whimsical flying turnips!

Great gun indeed!!

[Tom Wyraz]

I had a fella with alot of Parker experience tell me that Parker NEVER used a recoil pad with a spur.... I just wanted to post here to ask alot of guys with alot of experience as I personally found his statement hard to believe.

Dean, thanx for your answer....sounds very plausible to me.

[Ed Blake]

Wow. Nice hammer gun. Is that fluid steel or Damascus?

[Dean Romig]

I had a fella with alot of Parker experience tell me that Parker NEVER used a recoil pad with a spur.....

Most of have learned that when it comes to Parkers we never say "Never". :cool:

[Rich Anderson]

FWIW I have a DHE 16 made during the transition period that has a Silvers pad but no spur.

[Dave Suponski]

Wayne, Thank You soo much for the pictures. You have a wonderful gun there!

[Wayne Owens]

Ed,
The barrels are 28" Titanic steel.

[Tom Pollock]

Here are a couple pictures of a 1905 DHE with a factory silvers pad and a 13" length of pull. It all letters correctly. Oh, and it's also a two barrel set.

[Dean Romig]

Tom's DHE is a perfect example that the inletting in the wood was done specifically for the Silvers recoil pad and not for a skeleton steel butt plate.

[Mark Ouellette]

What I am wondering is what our distinguished AH Fox friend has acquired in a Parker gun?

[Craig Larter]

Tom P: Thanks for posting the pictures, your DHE pad looks exactly like my 1905 CHE on the first page of this topic

[Tom Wyraz]

Tom P, thanks for posting those pics.... that's exactly what I was hoping to see.

Yes indeed, I try very hard to not say the "n" word "never" in gun collecting as well. I was repeating what I was told.

Thanks again Parker boys who contributed. See ya in Addieville.

tjw

[Dean Romig]

Just received my Vintager's/Addieville information packet yesterday... see ya there!

[Bill Zachow]

My PH 8 gauge, made in 1909, was special ordered with a Silver's pad ($4) and a stock length of 14 1/4". The stock pad has the perfectly fitted peak.

[Dean Romig]

Here's a picture of Bill's 8 ga. PH from the Parker Pages feature.



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[charlie cleveland]

wow dont look this 8 ga was ever used....charlie

[Bill Zachow]

Not very much, Charlie. Has perfect 36" barrels with a lot of finish choked full (42/000) and fuller (44/000). Frame still has color and I realy like the special ordered twin ivory sights. I don't believe the gun ever saw much use. I was lucky enough to buy it when 8s were relatively cheap and the owner "threw in" an unope ed box of Remington 8 gauge shells. The whole deal was a lot less than a repro 28 goes for today.