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Mike Shepherd
07-12-2011, 03:03 PM
I just talked to George and he said it was gone within a few minutes of when he posted it last night. Smoking hot deal I think.

I am sixth on the list in case the other five back out:rotf:

http://www.champlinarms.com/Default.aspx?tabid=30&Mid=409&ctl=GunsDetails&StyleID=10&GunID=2128

PARKER 12 BORE DHE GRADE - 1905 - 30" EJECTOR BARRELS - FULL & FULL - 2 3/4" - NO SAFETY - STRAIGHT HAND STOCK at 14 3/8" - #2 FRAME - Splinter Forend - Double Triggers - 7 Lbs. 14 Oz. - 2 3/4" - Pits in the Bores but .035" Wall Thickness on Both Barrels - A Shooter

Style: Caliber: Price:
Shotgun Side by Side 12 Bore $1,450.00

#132544, Parker Bros. Makers, Meriden, Conn. Titanic Steel: Parker Bros. 12 Bore DHE with 30" Ejector Titanic Steel Barrels on a 2-Frame Made in 1905, Most likely built as a Trap Gun as it is without a safety, The barrels at .737 .044 & .045" (Full & Full), 2 3/4" chambers, "2" Frame size, .035" wall thickness on the right barrel & .0345" on the left barrel, Double triggers, Splinter Forend, Straight hand stock at 14 3/8 x 1 9/16 x 2 3/4" over a 1" Silvers pad, 7 lbs. 14 oz., The barrels have been reblacked a long time ago & now retains 90% barrel blue, No case colors remain, The wood is very sound fore & aft has about 80% finish, The checkering remains at 70%, The bores are with pits but it has stout wall thickness on both barrels. If you want a long range Dove gun with full & full chokes, it should work. No safety but you always hunt by yourself

George Lander
07-12-2011, 04:52 PM
CAN I BE SEVENTH??????...........George

charlie cleveland
07-12-2011, 04:59 PM
a nuther dream shot... charlie

Bill Murphy
07-12-2011, 08:22 PM
This is a joke, right?

Richard Flanders
07-12-2011, 08:28 PM
I can't tell Bill. Somehow I think not. As a shooter I'm sure it's a fine gun but the price seems close to what's it's worth to me since it's been totally redone and has pitted bbls inside and out from what I can see. George is no dummy and likes to move guns rather than sit on them and has the best and most honest descriptions on the web. Is the buttstock original? The wood looks almost too nice for a D grade, or is it just that it's finished so light??

Mike Shepherd
07-12-2011, 08:32 PM
Well Bill at the risk of looking foolish I thought it was a great deal. Certainly a shooter but a pigeon gun none the less.

Best,

Mike

Mark Parela
07-12-2011, 09:23 PM
Question how many of these pigeon guns ever saw a pigeon ring? Mention the word pigeon and everyone goes ga-ga like the first time they saw TV. You would think back then everyone and there brother was a pigeon shooter. I bring this topic up because every book I own, pictures, standings, there always seem to be a few guys shooting and the rest wagering.

Mike Shepherd
07-12-2011, 09:27 PM
It was made in 1905 with a straight grip stock and no safety. I think there is a fair chance it was made and used as a pigeon gun. If it was made twenty years later most likely a trap gun. That is my opinion of the probabilites, no facts.

Best,

Mike

Pete Lester
07-13-2011, 06:13 AM
I am not surprised, it probably sold to the first knowledgable person who came across it. Pitted barrels aside the rest of it looks to be solid. When is the last time you saw a PG VHE 12 bore much less a DHE straight grip at that price in similiar condition?

Bill Murphy
07-13-2011, 06:58 AM
I got my "Dear John" from George this morning.

Mike Shepherd
08-09-2011, 04:56 PM
Nice move by TommyGuns:

Probably got George down to $1300 and sold it for $3,384

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=243762734

Ed Blake
08-09-2011, 06:49 PM
I had my hat in the ring for a while.

Bill Anderson
08-09-2011, 07:25 PM
Nice move by TommyGuns:

Probably got George down to $1300 and sold it for $3,384

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=243762734

Actually it was $3834 and I can not figure out why George did that, unless he didn't have a clue in what he had.
Tommy listed it as a true auction also by leaving it up to the highest bidder to put today's price on it, instead of a reserve auction.

Bill

Bill Murphy
08-10-2011, 07:43 AM
The pitted barrels became quite shiny between owners. I bid on it not knowing that it was George's old gun. I'm a little disappointed I didn't check on its provenance before the auction ended. OK, who got it?

Ed Blake
08-10-2011, 08:39 AM
Bill - the barrels had a very poor blue job. Whoever did it blued the whole thing, did not even remove the ejectors. From the pictures it had that suspicious sheen of hot blueing. At the price George sold it the ribs could be relaid and you'd still have been money good, and I think he knew what he had. I recognized the gun and knew about how much Mr. Tommyguns paid for it so I did not bid it up. He was not going to bust his margin on me; still, an interesting piece.

Jared Valeski
08-10-2011, 05:30 PM
I would be the winning bidder... I am hoping the gun comes in as advertised. The barrels certainly look to have been redone but I see no evidence of the tell tale holes in the bottom rib that indicate a hot blue job. Engraving at the breech end and top rib lettering also look good and not buffed out. Realizing that there just aren't that many DHE's with a safety delete option especially from the pre trap gun era, I thought I'd take a chance on it. I believe that there is a letter available and it will be an interesting one to read.

Someone else's cost many times has little to do with actual value, and priced at about what a nice used Repro 12 guage is going for I am certainly OK with my final bid price if the gun is as advertised. I will keeep you updated when it is in my hands.
JJV

Mike Shepherd
08-10-2011, 05:35 PM
Jared I don't think you paid too much, George may have had it priced too low though.

Like you, I haven't had my hands on the gun.

Best,

Mike