My 2nd new to me Win 21

[matt koepnick]

Hello all. I managed to squeak out a 2nd Win 21 purchase recently. It is configured same as my first. Early 1933 production, double triggers, 30 inch bbls and same drops. It was labeled as Mod and Full. When I checked actual constricts I was a little disappointed to find the Mod was Lite Mod at .015. The Full was .038 like I wanted.
I finally was able to get out since weather has let up. I was pleasantly surprised to find out how nice this combo worked out on both our clays courses. The Woods course is mostly close open choke shots, the Marsh course is longer crossers with occasional close shots added.
To my enjoyment the tight Full wasn't a detriment on the Woods course and was very much a nice improvement on the Marsh course. This particular gun and chokes combined may be my Fave from now on for clays. I'm seriously contemplating on using this for Hunting now as it has the original metal finishes which have the usage one would expect see on a firearm this old.
I'm amazed at how much I keep learning on what works best for my shooting style and needs. I think back on how much I could have saved if only I knew these things years ago during my "buy it and see if it works" stage. :banghead:
Mattly

[Rick Roemer]

Sounds nice. Pictures? I do like Win 21s. Would like to get one in a sub gauge sometime. Where are you shooting clays?

[Bill Murphy]

Matt, your modified at .015 is a standard Winchester modified. Your choke has not been opened.

[matt koepnick]

Thanks for the Mod choke info Bill . I was originally hoping for .020, but I am now quite pleased with the improvement of scores as-is. My local club is the Clark County Sportsman Club near Springfield Ohio. Great club with super nice people, clubhouse, 2 courses, and lots of older shooters with a wealth of old gun knowledge. I am getting there slowly but surely.
Matt k

[Kevin McCormack]

Love M21s! Currently don't own one, but have had 2 12s, a 16 and a 20, all field grades. The 12s, 1 28" and 1 30" made great duck guns, the 28" 16 bored CYL & MOD was a great grouse gun, and I shot the 28" 20 ga. better than any SxS ever; a real killer on doves. Another reason I love them is I made some money on all of them when I sold/traded them.

[Bill Murphy]

I've sold a few, and I've kept a few. I bought the first two in 1965, when I was 19 years old.

[matt koepnick]

Both of mine are twins being Field 12's, Double triggers and 30 inchers. Both have same weights, same drops, and are stamped Mod and Full. First had been opened up to .010 and .015. It's really nice on the Woods course. It also had been refurbished to like new condition prior to my purchase so I am reluctant to use it for more than Clays usage on sunny days...
As far as posting pix, I'm locked out of e-mailing my laptop phone pix till late Dec. Dang-it
I bought these 2 (my 1rst and 2nd) this year being a ripe old age of 68 years. Shoulda gotten these much sooner like Bill did. Course I would have waited till 1976 to be same age..
Mattly

[Bill Davis]

Hey Matt! You’re never too old to start buying Winchester model 21’s. Everybody shoots better with a model 21!

[Bill Murphy]

I still have a small covey of Model 21s, but prefer to shoot my Parkers because of the greater variety of gauges and features.

[Mike Franzen]

As far as posting pix, I'm locked out of e-mailing my laptop phone pix till late Dec. Dang-it

How does that happen???

[matt koepnick]

Hey Mike. I was asked by my Acct security to verify current alt contact info (my old job e-mail) . I updated that info to now current correct new phone number for a text verify and Microsoft sent me a reply which killed my phone e-mail for 30 days. Go figure. My regular laptop stuff still up and running. Wouldn't have done update knowing what I know now.

[matt koepnick]

I forgot to add, I have now taken my new to me #2 win out on Pheasant farm hunt, and more clays outings on both our courses. The Game birds I took dropped nicely with about half the pellet count during cleaning. Easier eating for sure. I'm really liking the .015 Mod barrel results as first choke on birds over my dog..
Same with the clays shooting. After adjusting leads, and barrel selection on shots , I crushed most of what I hit cleanly. Pattern seems to be exactly what my brain is requiring. Quite a nice early Christmas present to myself.
Mattly

[matt koepnick]

Trying another way to post pics

[Mike Franzen]

I like it.

[Bill Murphy]

Matt, I bought a 20 gauge 21, same configuration as your 12s, for $650.00 some years ago. The seller was Norman Strebe, famous Washington, D.C. gun dealer mentioned in McIntosh's Fox book.

[Dave Noreen]

I bought a 20-gauge with ejectors, a beavertail and double triggers from Norm for not much more.

[matt koepnick]

Ya, we've been shopping for a 20 in same configurations for her, but you can add another zero to your numbers currently... prob not in our near future..
thanks, Mattly

[Bill Murphy]

I would bet that Dave had some "Fox" discussions with Mr. Strebe on one of his visits. The last I visited Strebe, he volunteered that he was down to 75 Foxes and 40 Parkers. When he purchased the remnants of Fox production, the stock was delivered to Southeast Washington in tractor trailer rigs. My little English Pointer puppy was whining in the truck. Mrs. Strebe insisted I bring him into the store. He immediately peed on the floor and Mrs. Strebe was quick with sponge and water bucket. They were great people. Too bad Mike McIntosh didn't have much to say about them in his book. Apparently, he didn't know them past the gun that Savage built for Norman.