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Austin Smith
12-24-2022, 12:19 AM
Had a good morning with my dad going after some ducks. Had a bonus goose cup in from a long ways away right into the spread.
1911 GH 28” barrels and an 1894 DH 30” barrels, Both #2 frame 12 gauges. Shooting 2 1/2” 3/4oz #4 bismuth.
Garry L Gordon
12-24-2022, 07:22 AM
Austin, it looks like you got your Christmas dinner. Well done!
charlie cleveland
12-24-2022, 08:46 AM
nice pictures with some great guns and loads....charlie
Matt Buckley
12-24-2022, 10:13 AM
Good for you guys to get some late season action in. Great pictures and awesome guns to boot. That looks like a pintail in the bag between those two green heads. Did it have much of a tail?
charlie cleveland
12-24-2022, 11:23 AM
could you tell us about your duck loads....charlie
Austin Smith
12-25-2022, 12:56 AM
Austin, it looks like you got your Christmas dinner. Well done!
Thank you Garry!
Austin Smith
12-25-2022, 01:00 AM
Good for you guys to get some late season action in. Great pictures and awesome guns to boot. That looks like a pintail in the bag between those two green heads. Did it have much of a tail?
Thank you, Matt! That’s actually a juvenile drake Goldeneye. Seems to be quite a few of them this year compared to the mature drakes. We have almost a 50/50 split between Mallards and Goldeneyes this time of year on the Gallatin River in Montana.
Breck Gorman
12-25-2022, 01:10 AM
Great eye for artistic composition on those pics especially that last one. Gorgeous goose and driftwood. Well done! Cover worthy.
Austin Smith
12-25-2022, 01:16 AM
could you tell us about your duck loads....charlie
Of course, Charlie! I’m loading Cheddite Hulls I cut down to 2 1/2” with 18 grains of American Select powder with a Trap Commander Z21 wad with 3/4 oz of #4 Bismuth crimped with a 6 point star crimp.
From Tom Armbrust’s expertise, these rounds average 4850 PSI and a velocity of 1217 FPS. A real pleasure to shoot and seem to be very sufficient, even on some far shots. I have some Bs loaded up in the event I target geese and when I search for a turkey this spring, but the 4s seem to have handled that goose very well.
Austin Smith
12-25-2022, 01:19 AM
Great eye for artistic composition on those pics especially that last one. Gorgeous goose and driftwood. Well done! Cover worthy.
I really appreciate that, Breck!
Stan Hillis
12-25-2022, 07:28 AM
Very nice, Austin. Were those Cheddite hulls already stamped with the "Bismuth" name and the goose in flight? They look good!
Austin Smith
12-27-2022, 01:47 AM
Thank you, Stan! I made the stamps on Rubbertamps.com and they are stamped with “Stazon” ink. The ink dries pretty fast and seems to hold up pretty well on the plastic of the hulls. A little bit of acetone on a paper towel and it comes off easy to re-stamp if necessary.
Stan Hillis
12-27-2022, 07:55 AM
That is so cool. Thank you for sharing that with us!
Matt Buckley
12-27-2022, 02:32 PM
After looking at the picture closer I didn't see the white stripe up the head like a drake pintail would have and got to thinking that could be a goldeneye since this is late season duck hunting. Well done.
Austin Smith
12-28-2022, 05:39 PM
I appreciate that, Stan. You’re very welcome!
No worries, Matt! Thank you!
William Parks
06-30-2023, 11:30 AM
Austin, this is a great post and picture! I appreciate the info on the loads you’re using. I’ve got a 1901 DH 30” 12ga and I was shooting 2.75” loads out of it this past duck season. Do you have a 2.75” recipe for those Damascus barrels you would recommend?
Austin Smith
07-01-2023, 10:45 AM
Thank you William!
I don’t have any loads for 2 3/4 specifically. I just put a short kit on my Mec and cut everything down to 2.5”. I have an original 3” chambered damascus gun and it eats up the 2.5” all the same. I would assume that with the Z21 wads would work with the same powder amounts in a 2.75” hull versus a 2.5” hull as the wad compresses a bit once crimped. And in theory, with slightly less pressure on the powder from the wad being compressed down 1/4” less in a 2 3/4 hull, I would assume pressure would remain around the same or even a little less. But I could be wrong, maybe someone on here has some experience with loading multiple length shells?
Harold Lee Pickens
07-02-2023, 07:01 AM
Austin, havent loaded any Bismuth yet, but certainly going to file that recipie in my reloading notebook. Have to shoot non-tox on most of my late season SoDok pheasant areas(WMA's).
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