Parker Pages

[Randy G Roberts]

Mine showed up today. I won't get it opened and scanned until this evening so I am unable to tell you anything about the material within it. It sure has a nice looking VH on the cover though, apparently a 3" gun based upon the ammo it's keeping company with. Patience fellas, it'll be there soon :)

[CraigThompson]

Is the article on the 2021 Koneski Invitational in there as well ?

[Randy G Roberts]

Don't know Craig, I have not opened it yet.

[Dean Romig]

I’m really looking forward to another fine issue! I haven’t been home since 10 this morning so I hope it’s waiting for me.





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[Randy G Roberts]

Only for you Craig, good thing my boss is a really nice fella !

[CraigThompson]

Only for you Craig, good thing my boss is a really nice fella !

Thank you sir ! You’re a scholar and a gentleman regardless of what I usually say :rotf:

[Phil Yearout]

Mine be here today too.

[David Noble]

Mine came today too. It's not common for me to get them this quick!
Looks like some great articles and some really nice pictures!

[CraigThompson]

I’m intrested to read what Master Harry has to say on Havilah Babcock :cool:

[Bill Murphy]

Mine came yesterday, November 22. I've read everything except Harry's book review. I have a bunch of Havilah Babcock so I saved the review for today's reading. John Davis' accounts of 1889 shoots are especially interesting to me. Thanks to the Koneskis for this great issue.

[Randy G Roberts]

I am in the midst of some new construction which set the stage for my evening to be interrupted by a contractor. I did scan through it, looks like some interesting articles. A big thank you to the Editors !!

[Donald F. Mills]

Dad and I are in South Dakota getting ready for our first day of hunting. My wife said it came yesterday. I usually read it the day it arrives. Now for some patience but at least I will have something to distract me in the meantime. :)

[CraigThompson]

Babcock while educating plenty of Gamecocks , he new the meaning of Cavaliers and the Old Dominion :whistle: Kinda goes along with the old saying “Southern by the grace of God” :bigbye:

[Phil Yearout]

It sure has a nice looking VH on the cover though, apparently a 3" gun based upon the ammo it's keeping company with.

I've been wondering about that since the blurb inside says it has 2-7/8" chambers :confused:...

[Randy G Roberts]

2 7/8" chambers which would have been intended for 3" shells I believe Phil.

[Mike Koneski]

Dad and I are in South Dakota getting ready for our first day of hunting. My wife said it came yesterday. I usually read it the day it arrives. Now for some patience but at least I will have something to distract me in the meantime. :)

Don, you could always have the Mrs. read it to you over the phone. Just sayin'.

[Mike Koneski]

Mine came yesterday, November 22. I've read everything except Harry's book review. I have a bunch of Havilah Babcock so I saved the review for today's reading. John Davis' accounts of 1889 shoots are especially interesting to me. Thanks to the Koneskis for this great issue.

Thanks Bill. We would not be able to put this fine magazine together without the contributions from our esteemed members and that is where the thanks should be directed. Not ones to shy away from a pat on the back, but we also give credit where credit is due.

[Pete Lester]

2 7/8" chambers which would have been intended for 3" shells I believe Phil.

Unless it's a 10 gauge, then 2 7/8" chambers were intended for 2 7/8" shells.

[Randy G Roberts]

Unless it's a 10 gauge, then 2 7/8" chambers were intended for 2 7/8" shells.

The gun in question is a 12 bore Pete.

[John Davis]

Great issue. I particularly enjoyed Harry's book review. Babcock is my favorite "outdoor" writer and I have read most of his books, but not "The Education of Pretty Boy." Now I've got to pick up a copy and find out just what happens and who stole that dog. Thanks Harry for a wonderful article.

[CraigThompson]

I reckon I should go check the mail it just dawned on me I’ve not checked it since Monday .

[Mills Morrison]

Keavin Nelson's article stood out for me. Another great issue!

[CraigThompson]

Mine appeared this morning ! Nice edition of the magazine . My favs have to be Master Harry’s report and Mr. Mills article about the family Parker . But Mr.Mills leaves me wondering , what happened to Pops big gun ?????

[Randy Davis]

Congrats to the editors... Really enjoyed Mills Morrison`s article on Fred Gilbert and his runs with the Parker shotguns. One of your best editions...

Randy Davis
Trap3

[Mills Morrison]

Thanks Randy!

One thing to add to Harry's report, for years I thought of Havilah Babcock as a short story writer and non-fiction. A novel seemed odd for him so I didn't read it until recently. If anyone else has the same hesitation, the book will surprise you and it is really some of Babcock's best. There is a lot about his teaching philosophies which has nothing to do with hunting, but which I really enjoyed.

[Mark Britton]

I really enjoyed Harry's article on Havilah Babcock it wasn't written like a kid wrote it. It was written like a man did ! I am having a lot of problem with that , its making me feel old. Great job Harry ! O by the way I never knew Dr Babcock but knew is nephew Webb very well

[Andrew Sacco]

Loved the Gilbert story, very well done and Don's family Parker story. Great issue again Sammy and Mike!

[Jim Thynne]

Jusr great as usual. Thanks to all of the work that goes into each of these Parker Pages as well as the interesting articles.:) LOL I have to use gloves all of the time now, so tanks meant thanks!

[Richard Flanders]

I really liked the article on the military Parkers, which is something I had know absolutely nothing about before reading this today.... while seriously freezing my a** off in the outhouse in sub-zero temps no less... :eek:

[Dean Romig]

It must have been quite an absorbing article to sit and read it while so frigidly engaged.... :shock:


I'll have to read it by the fire whenever i receive my copy.





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[Mills Morrison]

Dean, if you don't have your issue by now, the pony must have died along the way and it is time to request a new one

[Dean Romig]

In November coming from Michigan?…. The pony was probably mistaken for a deer and was shot…





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[Dean Romig]

Just checked the mailbox - it must have been delivered yesterday.

I always read “Parkers In Pulp” by John Davis, first and I’m about halfway through it when I read, according to the August 17th entry, the mainsprings on our hammerless Parkers were guaranteed for 25 years. John notes “Parker certainly didn’t lose any money on that guarantee.” I’ll go one further by saying I think Parker might have really boisted their sales numbers by guaranteeing those springs for fifty or even seventy-five years.

I wonder if any of us shooting our hammerless Parkers have experienced a broken mainspring?





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[Mills Morrison]

I'll put money on our Parkers outlasting many of the new guns coming on the market today

[Dean Romig]

Hi Mills - please explain the meaning of your term “rep champion” in your Fred Gilbert article, which incidently, was well written and very well researched.
Also of great importance was your credits paragraph at the end.

May I presume it means ‘manufacturers representative’??



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[John Davis]

Dean,

(Back in the day) In many tournaments, such as the Grand American, professionals/industry reps were not allowed to compete against amateurs. The pros/reps had separate events. So, you would have an Amateur Champion and a Rep Champion.

These days there is no distinction between an amateur and a pro.

[Dean Romig]

Thanks John. Prior to that distinction Harvey H. Brown won the Lorrilard Medal in 1873 but later returned it to Lewis Lorrilard, Esq. with a scathing letter to him and the officials because the field wasn’t even regarding the entrants in a competition. His robust challenge to the integrity of field and the officials may have been the reason for the change.

The below excerpt taken from Ed Muderlak’s “Parker Guns, Shooting Flying and the American Experience” pg. 309 with more history on this on pages 310 and 311.

(Thank You Ed for your exhaustive research and wonderful books.





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[Mills Morrison]

Late to the party here, but what John said. Thanks for the compliment. My goal was to add to Parker knowledge with this article.

I should have found definitions of some of these terms and had Sam do her "Get the Skinny" on them . . .

[Arthur Shaffer]

Thanks John. Prior to that distinction Harvey H. Brown won the Lorrilard Medal in 1873 but later returned it to Lewis Lorrilard, Esq. with a scathing letter to him and the officials because the field wasn’t even regarding the entrants in a competition. His robust challenge to the integrity of field and the officials may have been the reason for the change.

The below excerpt taken from Ed Muderlak’s “Parker Guns, Shooting Flying and the American Experience” pg. 309 with more history on this on pages 310 and 311.

(Thank You Ed for your exhaustive research and wonderful books.





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All of this didn't show up, but the situation discussed sounds exactly like what embroiled the golf world in the early late 1800's through the early 1900,s. My guess is that the formation of the modern Olympics fostered a "purity in competition" movement. (Along with simple jealosy of how good those guys were.)

[Mills Morrison]

In writing that article, I realized I was just scratching the surface on the trap shooting world back then. It is great that we have some on this board who are real experts

[Dean Romig]

Please don’t count me as one of those trapshooting experts. I’m far from that - just repeating what I read.





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[Mills Morrison]

Me neither, but there are a few who know an awful lot.

[Garry L Gordon]

Thanks John. Prior to that distinction Harvey H. Brown won the Lorrilard Medal in 1873 but later returned it to Lewis Lorrilard, Esq. with a scathing letter to him and the officials because the field wasn’t even regarding the entrants in a competition. His robust challenge to the integrity of field and the officials may have been the reason for the change.

The below excerpt taken from Ed Muderlak’s “Parker Guns, Shooting Flying and the American Experience” pg. 309 with more history on this on pages 310 and 311.

(Thank You Ed for your exhaustive research and wonderful books.

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One more plus in the (too) short history of Wilbur F. Parker, Sr., and too bad he died so young. It would have been interesting to see what else he might have accomplished and how the country would regard him now.

And, Dean, I second your thanks to Ed M. He looked at things a bit differently, and helped us see them so, too.

[keavin nelson]

Just checked the mailbox - it must have been delivered yesterday.

I always read “Parkers In Pulp” by John Davis, first and I’m about halfway through it when I read, according to the August 17th entry, the mainsprings on our hammerless Parkers were guaranteed for 25 years. John notes “Parker certainly didn’t lose any money on that guarantee.” I’ll go one further by saying I think Parker might have really boisted their sales numbers by guaranteeing those springs for fifty or even seventy-five years.

I wonder if any of us shooting our hammerless Parkers have experienced a broken mainspring?

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Dean, the mainspring broke in my 1902 16ga GH while hunting woodcock in Maine this fall, on the last day! I have since fitted a replacement. Things just don't last like they once did!:whistle:

[Dean Romig]

Dean, the mainspring broke in my 1902 16ga GH while hunting woodcock in Maine this fall, on the last day! I have since fitted a replacement. Things just don't last like they once did!:whistle:


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