did you know

[charlie cleveland]

that 14 ga brass shells in a size were the same as 12 b brass shells....I did not know this till I seen a box of Remington brass shells stating this on the box...unfortunally the box is empty...a 12 b shell is very hard yo come by in the collecting world...only one I ever seen for sale they wanted 300 dollars for it....this box is on wards auctions if any body wants to see this statement...charlie

[Dave Noreen]

I saw that box too. Part of the growing pains of early day breech loaders.

[Chuck Bishop]

My back action is chambered this way. I've seen examples in early stock books where they have gauge recorded as 12b/14.

[Dave Noreen]

The only E. Remington & Sons catalog I have is the reprint of the 1878 and the ammunition section only lists 10- and 12-gauge paper shells, but they list 10- and 12-gauge shot concentrators, each gauge for either paper or brass shells.

UPDATE -- I found an 1877 E. Remington & Sons catalog on line and it lists brass shells in 10- & 12-gauge in both A & B and 16B.

[charlie cleveland]

I have several 8 ga shells that have a on them these are brass shells...also have 10 ga brass parker brothers shells that have the a on them but no b shells do I have....I also seen some Remington single barrel guns that said they would shoot the 16 ga brass shell and a 20 ga paper shell..i may have this back wards....charlie

[Dave Noreen]

From the 1878 E. Remington & Sons catalog --

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