1891 CH on GB:

[Bruce P Bruner]

Bernard steel barrels, checks out in the Serialization book. I can't speculate on the final hammer price, it will undoubtedly be above my head. Double triggers and nice CH furniture. It got my attention, though not a show stopper it never the less is a desirable one. We can find out what it brings in 13 days.
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/906322435

[Craig Larter]

May be the lowest fishtail lever recorded 66207?? Millis what say you? Nice old Parker.

[Mills Morrison]

It is the lowest. Prior lowest was 66223

[Dean Romig]

I can’t enlarge the letter and still retain any resolution. Does it mention original chokes or pellet counts?

That one doesn’t have much going for it except for the “looking back setter” on the right side.
Bottom ribs have vent holes drilled - not factory work. Hmmm…





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[Mills Morrison]

Original barrel length is 28. Would not be surprised if the dealer’s choke measurements are not accurate.

No mention of chokes or pattern info in letter

[keavin nelson]

It went back to factory twice! To take dents out, and the first time to refinish barrels.

[Dean Romig]

Right Keavin but Parker Bros. would not have drilled those vent holes.





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[Richard Flanders]

I look at that gun and just wonder how much shooting it took to make the wood look like that. This gun has had some serious amount of shooting. Gawd, don't you wish guns like this could talk and tell their story?!

[Mills Morrison]

And good looking wood too

As Dean mentioned though, those holes couldn’t be anything good

[Dean Romig]

Some folks who drill vent holes drill tinier holes - I mean how big do they have to be to allow water vapor out?
Then they close them up with a bead of solder and finish over them so they are nearly invisible. That takes an attention to care and details.





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[Paul Ehlers]

Fella's,

I'm just going to throw this out here and don't mean to be offensive about it.

There's a good chance that the person who owns this gun might be a member here who might not appreciate a thread about pointing out all the defects & warts on a gun he has listed on an auction. The dealer listing this one does a lot of consignment auctions & this one could be consigned by a member.

Most of us here know how to evaluate a gun both for it's merits and demerits & will bid accordingly if we have a personal interest in the gun. This one is a true auction with a penny start & no reserve, let's see what the market as to say about it.

Just a little food for thought!

[Brian Dudley]

You guys are all right, the gun is a total turd. You all should not bid on it...:whistle:

[Dean Romig]

Fella's, The dealer listing this one does a lot of consignment auctions & this one could be consigned by a member.

Most of us here know how to evaluate a gun both for it's merits and demerits & will bid accordingly if we have a personal interest in the gun. This one is a true auction with a penny start & no reserve, let's see what the market as to say about it.

Be that as it may and I know “most of us” can pick out the good and the not so good points of a gun for sale or at auction and they are fortunate th have the experience to be able to discern those differences.
That being said, there are a growing number of newbies who visit our website in order to be educated in matters pertaining to Parkers. I’m not trying to sabotage anyone’s sale - I’m attempting to shine a little light on things that might otherwise go unnoticed by folks just entering our ranks.
And I mean this in the spirit of good fellowship.





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[Bruce P Bruner]

Fella's,

I'm just going to throw this out here and don't mean to be offensive about it.

There's a good chance that the person who owns this gun might be a member here who might not appreciate a thread about pointing out all the defects & warts on a gun he has listed on an auction. The dealer listing this one does a lot of consignment auctions & this one could be consigned by a member.

Most of us here know how to evaluate a gun both for it's merits and demerits & will bid accordingly if we have a personal interest in the gun. This one is a true auction with a penny start & no reserve, let's see what the market as to say about it.

Just a little food for thought!

Paul, point well taken. This is a forum dedicated to learning and discussing Parker shotguns. I didn't start this thread to degrade the the gun in any way. I happen to like the gun, perfect or not. Each gun has it's own specific history and there is nothing wrong with discussing a gun whether good or bad. It's entertaining to have the experienced guys here examine and give their knowledgeable opinions on topics of merit. The added exposure isn't going to negatively impact the sale. The gun is what it is. I don't feel we need to be "hush hush" about the possibility of a gun under scrutiny could be owned by a member. No disrespect intended.

[CraigThompson]

You guys are all right, the gun is a total turd. You all should not bid on it...:whistle:

Damn you beat me to the punch I was going to suggest the same :whistle:

[CraigThompson]

Defects or not I like most any of them that have an antlered critter on the floor plate :cool:

[Brian Dudley]

Defects or not I like most any of them that have an antlered critter on the floor plate :cool:

Would a jackalope count?

[Craig Larter]

I own a CH 12ga 1 frame within a couple hundred serial numbers from the gun being discussed. My gun's bores measure .751/.750 (.038/.038 min walls) which I believe is correct for the period. So if the dealer measured the chokes with a drop in choke gauge the chokes listed are most likely incorrect.
I like the gun and thinks it's cool, but no space in my gunroom.

[Randy G Roberts]

Defects or not I like most any of them that have an antlered critter on the floor plate :cool:

I honestly took one look at that gun and muttered to myself, "there's Craigs gun".

[Bill Murphy]

I wonder about the SB opinion of the original barrel length. I'm not going to look it up if no one else does. I also wonder if this seller can give a real assessment of the bore and choke dimensions. I assume he owns a brass Galazan choke gauge, or a dime.

[CraigThompson]

I honestly took one look at that gun and muttered to myself, "there's Craigs gun".

I hear you ! What’s your ETA for Wednesday ?

[bruce a lyons]

They have some interesting items this week. 2 other Parkers, as well as a Colt and W.C Scott All need some love but seem worthy of a little time/money. The D grade GB906173189 looks like it might be a restock. Remington grip cap. I have bid on their items in the past, they just seem to go for a little more then I'm willing to pay

[Mills Morrison]

Interest (and bidding) seems to be heating up. Good for the seller and the lucky winner.

[bruce a lyons]

Got in the game on the W.C. Scott. GB906210624. High grade gun with lovely wood.

[Randy G Roberts]

I hear you ! What’s your ETA for Wednesday ?

Guessing around 5:00 or a little earlier barring delays.

[Bruce P Bruner]

Got in the game on the W.C. Scott. GB906210624. High grade gun with lovely wood.
Yes, that stock is outstanding. The chokes measuring at cylinder are not particularly appealing for me. But that wood...

[bruce a lyons]

Ye old gun, pre choke. I find it amazing what they created about 5 years before Parker got started.

[CraigThompson]

I’d be curiouse as to the most prevalent subject on CH BH and AH floorplates ? Feathered creatures vs antlered creatures vs what else !

[jefferyconnor]

https://www.gunsamerica.com/954334422/Parker-Bros-Makers-Meriden-Conn-Bernard-Steel-Grade-4-or-C.htm

Here’s another Bernard CH for members to look at.

[Mills Morrison]

I noticed that one too but also saw no feedback and only two completed sales for the seller.

[Dean Romig]

I’d be curiouse as to the most prevalent subject on CH BH and AH floorplates ? Feathered creatures vs antlered creatures vs what else !

We’ve seen stags with hinds, 5 pheasants, 5 ducks, a single large goose, dogs on earlier CH guns… probably others?





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[CraigThompson]

We’ve seen stags with hinds, 5 pheasants, 5 ducks, a single large goose, dogs on earlier CH guns… probably others?





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I saw I believe it was a 16 gauge AH or BH recently that had jackrabbits .

[Kevin McCormack]

About 25 years ago I passed up buying an AHE Damascus 12 ga. that had a sea otter floating on its back in a kelp bed trying to crack open a clam with some sort of rock or stone engraved on its floorplate. A Winchester collector named David Bichrest from Maine had taken it in trade against a scarce lever action, and said he was not having much luck selling it because of the 'dangerous' Damascus barrels. I think the asking price back then was around $2500 (*sob!*).

[Tom Jay]

“It is the lowest. Prior lowest was 66223”

I have 496xx Grade 3 top lever 12 gauge with fishtail

[Mills Morrison]

We are talking hammerless Parkers. The lowest top lever is around 42,000