Unknown Upland Hunter

[Dean Romig]

Does anyone know who this man is? The picture was taken late 40's - early 50's

Purported to have hunted with Burt Spiller.


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[ED J, MORGAN]

Looks like Jack O'connor

[Dean Romig]

Hmmm... Close but I don’t think so...


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[James L. Martin]

It sure does look like Mr.270

[CraigThompson]

Hmmm... Close but I don’t think so...


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That's not the best picture for comparison . That was from one of his last two British Columbia Stone Sheep hunts either in 1971 or 1973 about 5 years before he met his maker .

[allen newell]

My vote is on O'Connor

[Jay Gardner]

Never saw a photo of JO’C with a mustache. I have no idea who the mystery upland hunter is, but I’m pretty sure it is not JO’C. Also, the upland hunter appears
To be considerably older in the photo than the photos of JO’C, which were taken in the 70’s. I’d bet the upland hunted had passed to the great grouse covert in the sky well before the photos of O’C were taken.

[Mills Morrison]

Not Jack O'Connor but not sure who else it might be

[John Davis]

Don't know who he is but he's wearing my shooting vest.

[Mills Morrison]

All right Dean, we give up. What's the answer?

[Dean Romig]

All right Dean, we give up. What's the answer?



I don’t know...... That’s why I’m asking you guys.




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[Jay Gardner]

Jack O’Connor was born in 1902 so he would have been 48 if the photo was taken in 1950. The mystery hunter appears to be significantly older than 48.

Distinguished looking gentleman, for sure.

[Dean Romig]

IMO the mystery hunter looks to be pushing 70 - if using myself as a comparison....





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[King Brown]

Reminds me of Hollywood actor who played gangster roles. Edward G. Robinson?

[Keith Sirmans]

Hobart Ames? Nash's Shoulders were a lot wider

[allen newell]

Louis Lipp

[Dean Romig]

Louis Lipp

Who is Louis Lipp??





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[Gary Carmichael Sr]

Yea, Who is Mr Lipp? I know who it isn't! fatty Arbuckle. Gary

[allen newell]

Fred Bear?

[Dean Romig]

Fred Bear?


Nooooo......:biglaugh:





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[allen newell]

John Henry Patterson

[larry west]

Ray Holland Field & Stream editor?

[Dean Romig]

That would make sense - do you have a picture of Ray Holland we could compare?





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[Dean Romig]

Nope, this is Ray Holland...


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[Mills Morrison]

If it were some notable person among our circles, someone would have recognized him by now. It is probably just a random friend of his

[Dean Romig]

Could be a random friend I suppose but Spiller had a lot of distinguished and not so “random” friends and associates.

I’m going to make it my ‘life’s mission’ to discover who he is....

So please, if anyone thinks he knows who this man is, post it here. And pictures supporting your opinion would be good.



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[Brian Stucker]

Dean, shot in the dark here...google 'William Barber Haynes goose and duck shooting' and look at images. You'll see a picture of him holding a some geese. Not sure, but there is a faint similarity. Question is, was this Haynes cat an upland hunter traveling in Spiller's circles. Good luck on your search.

[Brian Stucker]

I uploaded two pictures from my book.

[Ken Hill]

The guy looks a little like the person on this book cover by Arthur MacDougall Jr.


http://www.outdoorsportinglibrary.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/DudDean_enchanted-206x300.jpg

I can't find an image of MacDougall to know if the book cover is a rendering of the author. MacDougall was born in 1896.

Ken

[Dean Romig]

Brian - that’s the closest I’ve seen yet.





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[Dean Romig]

The guy looks a little like the person on this book cover by Arthur MacDougall Jr.


http://www.outdoorsportinglibrary.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/DudDean_enchanted-206x300.jpg

I can't find an image of MacDougall to know if the book cover is a rendering of the author. MacDougall was born in 1896.

Ken

Burt Spiller was born in 1886 so MacDougall is not a far stretch but we won't know without a verified picture of him.

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[Brian Stucker]

The info. on this man Haynes, is that he was in his eighties when the book was published in 1961.
He also states that he was on the staff of two sportsmans magazines. He was a crazed sports fisherman beginning in 1919 and published his first book on waterfowling in 1926. Says he was known for a time as 'Sailfish Bill' and was hooked on fishing for 30 years. There is no mention of upland hunting, so he might not be your man. Although, Spiller might have been chummy with a fellow outdoorsman and author enough to go grouse hunting a few times. Be interested to know when you nail the identity of the mystery man.

[Ken Hill]

Dean,

There is picture from the late 40s in the link below. It is on page 48. I just don't know. I could not copy just the one page and put up the picture. He was reverend out of Maine.

Ken
https://digitalmaine.com/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=https://www.google.com/&httpsredir=1&article=1143&context=maine_writers_correspondence

[Ken Hill]

Here's the picture

http://parkerguns.org/forums/albums/thumbs/12/8a15c5319945da9123f2a11037b3296b_12221.jpg?dl=1567 620185

Ken

[Dean Romig]

Oh Horsefeathers!!! That didn't work...


Anyway - I copy/saved it and was able to enlarge it but couldn't reproduce the enlarged version here.
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[Garth Gustafson]

Everett St John (1881-1966) Mass. grouse hunter/conservationist might have a passing resemblance to your guy. From Frank Woolner’s “Grouse and Grouse Hunting”, pg 66.

[Russell E. Cleary]

Ken and Dean:

Spiller did write about a parson who he befriended at a Boy Scout jamboree. And the following Spring they fished the Rangeley Lakes, Maine region together, e. g., Quimby Pond. The parson’s ministry was near enough to the area they fished, that Spiller remained local for an extra day just to attend the parson’s Sunday church service. Spiller did not identify his friend by name, but wrote of this in the chapter “Fisherman’s Luck”, in his posthumously published FISHIN’ AROUND.

It may, however, be a too much of a stretch to postulate a connection between Spiller’s “parson” friend and the Reverend Mr. MacDougall, whose ministry, being in Bingham, Maine is more associated with the fishing areas of the Kennebec River drainage. It is a region that does have a MacDougall Pond (is that connected with the Reverend MacDougall, Sr. or Jr.?) and an Enchanted Pond (which the book cover illustrated may be associated with).

[Bill Murphy]

I have not read any of "Mak's" works, but I read the entire Maine Authors file. It is quite entertaining.

[Russell E. Cleary]

I now see that according to MapQuest it is only 65 miles from Rangeley proper to Bingham, taking Route 4 Eastward and then historic Route 201 North alongside the Kennebec.

So, fishing either area would be feasible for the Rev. MacDougall and Burt Spiller. And this would include the day Spiller delivered his “parson” friend at midnight to his home after a day of fishing, and in time for the minister to deliver the Sunday sermon that Spiller stuck around for one more day to hear.

I see at least a two-part problem: 1) What was the identity of the “parson”; and is he MacDougall, the answer of which, if ever found, would be an objective fact; and,

2) is there a convincing likeness between the photo Dean has to work with and the one of the Rev. MacDougall, which is subjective.

[Dean Romig]

I paged through "Partridge Shortnin'" by Grampa Grouse (aka Gorham Cross of Wellesley Hills Ma.) because he, "Tap" Tapply and Burt hunted together often and maybe I'll find a picture in there. He lists a bunch o' names of guys they hunted with over the years.





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[Gary Bodrato]

Lynn Bogue Hunt

Perhaps the two best-known books Hunt illustrated, though—both Derrydales—were Grouse Feathers and More Grouse Feathers. Written by another legendary figure, Burton Spiller, they’ve charmed generations of readers. Spiller’s droll, humorous stories and Hunt’s evocative, beautifully realized drawings make for one of the happiest marriages of text and art in the sporting canon.

[Reggie Bishop]

Interesting double. Looks to be fairly long barreled, pistol grip with a solid pad.

[Mills Morrison]

General Eisenhower?

[Russell E. Cleary]

Mills:

That is close enough for consideration, but was Ike just too "squared away" a kind of guy to have ever sported a mustache?

[Dean Romig]

I almost bought a straight grip Parker DHE 16 that Ike had borrowed from his NH grouse hunting buddy and liked it so much he was very slow in returning it.

But no, it’s not Ike.




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[Eric Eis]

I almost bought a straight grip Parker DHE 16 that Ike had borrowed from his NH grouse hunting buddy and liked it so much he was very slow in returning it.

But no, it’s not Ike.




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And why didn't you.................:rolleyes:

[Mills Morrison]

Dean, Can you tell us more about the picture? What is the source of it? Where is it pictured? Is any kind of location mentioned?

[Dean Romig]

I really don’t know where the picture was taken.

All I know is that the gent in the picture is purported to have hunted birds with Spiller in NH or ME.






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[Dean Romig]

And why didn't you.................:rolleyes:


The gun, a book inscribed to the deceased owner of the gun and a picture of Ike, the owner, the Parker and a Brittany... autographed by Ike and a letter from the owner to Ike wondering when he would get his Parker back, were offered for sale in about 2003 in a local want-ad or Uncle Henry’s Buy, Sell & Swap publication for something like $3.5k. I called immediately but was told the gun was just purchased by a collector. I asked the seller to have the collector call me - that I would pay him a good profit for the group. Well he called that evening and told me he had sold it to Riley’s in NH. I drove there the next morning, handled the gun and asked about the other things that were sold with it. The store owner said “Nothing else came in with the gun.”

The new price on the gun was $7,500 and I walked out.





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[Mills Morrison]

The gun, a book inscribed to the deceased owner of the gun and a picture of Ike, the owner, the Parker and a Brittany... autographed by Ike and a letter from the owner to Ike wondering when he would get his Parker back, were offered for sale in about 2003 in a local want-ad or Uncle Henry’s Buy, Sell & Swap publication
For something like $3.5k. I called immediately but was told the gun was just purchased by a collector. I asked the seller to have the collector call me - that I would pay him a good profit for the group. Well he called that evening and told me he had sold it to Riley’s in NH. I drove there the next morning, handled the gun and asked about the other things that were sold with it. The store owner said “Nothing else came in with the gun.”

The new price on the gun was $7,500 and I walked out.





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That hurts. I would have walked out too

[Gary Bodrato]

He's Alive !!

[Dean Romig]

Gary - that’s the closest likeness so far.





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