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Bruce Day
08-05-2010, 08:57 PM
12ga. Jim says 40 of these were ordered by Iver Johnson. This is the only one I've seen. I visited Jim when I left the BSA Jamboree, and am on my way home now.

Not many 1 frame 12ga Trojans, probably fewer still with Twist barrels. This one has a a Miller single trigger.

Bruce Day
08-05-2010, 09:06 PM
Anybody seen a late hammer gun with r&r bolt plate?

( this is the 1905 bolt plate, as distinguished from the 1910 bolt plate)

Bruce Day
08-05-2010, 09:17 PM
And Jim's exquisite CHE 16ga.

Bruce Day
08-05-2010, 09:22 PM
And I got to see again his great A1-S and super B grade, all of which are kept in quite a vault.

Austin W Hogan
08-05-2010, 09:31 PM
My 159157 which was at the annual meeting a few years age has the 'pinless' bolt plate.

My take is this; Was the wear plate really for wear, or to make barrel /frame fitting easier? I have a 5 digit plateless VH that I have put 10 - 20000 rounds through with no wear, and a lifter and a top action with half as many with no wear. That would have been a lot of game shots, even before 1900.

Best, Austin

Bruce Day
08-05-2010, 09:47 PM
Austin, I suspect both. The popular notion is that it is for wear but we have both seen pre replaceable bolt plate guns with no discernable wear to the lock engagement bite. I think if they are kept greased and a person doesn't consistantly allow the lever to snap back, the engagement will last forever.

Dean Romig
08-05-2010, 10:25 PM
Holy Cow Jimmy!!! I like your Parkers but I am truly impressed with your vault!!

Lookin' forward to seeing you at Pintail Point in September.

George Lander
08-05-2010, 10:40 PM
NOW THAT'S A VAULT!......George

Dave Suponski
08-06-2010, 08:09 AM
Gotta love it! Thanks for the great photo's guy's.

Richard Flanders
08-06-2010, 09:03 AM
Nice post Bruce. Thanks so much for taking the effort. The twist Trojan is incredible. Never knew any were made.

The vault is like that of two friends in Fairbanks. One is made of an old bank vault door, the other I think a Liberty door and frame. Both are built into the high wall of a walk in basement. One contains an impressive collection of class 3 stuff, including some kind of 6' long British? anti tank weapon.

David Borrowman
08-09-2010, 12:47 PM
One contains an impressive collection of class 3 stuff, including some kind of 6' long British? anti tank weapon.

I love Alaska!

Francis Morin
08-09-2010, 05:35 PM
I am impressed with the bank vault- and the great fotos too- Thanks Bruce for sharing- and to your friend Jim for making this possible- A question- in the fotos of the three high grade Parkers, just above the gun in the middle there looks to be a blued tube or barrel with a brazing mark near the end- if you can spot it, can you ID it please??:bigbye:

Bruce Day
08-09-2010, 06:46 PM
walking cane missing the tip

not anything like what we had for sporting clays at the Nebraska Flatwater shoot, if that is what you are talking about.
( its just a prop, wouldn't want the BATFE to get all excited)

Francis Morin
08-09-2010, 07:36 PM
Wonder what a full house RPG can do to a battue clay at 75 yards and gaining? Wow and Wowie!!:rotf::eek::nono::nono: