Identify this Parker Hammer

[Dylan Salvatore]

Hello everyone,
I am new to the forum and have something that I wanted to share with you. It is an older Parker made in 1890 by the serial number with external hammers. It is a 12 Gauge, frame size 1, and the barrels are marked "Stub Twist." It is fully functional with no damage other than use wear and patina, the bores are clean and barrels have not been cut down. I was wondering if anyone might be able to identify the Grade of the gun and any other information about it, as well as an approximate value or if it is desirable for a collector. Anything you guys can share would be greatly appreciated. See pictures of the gun below. If anything else, hopefully I gave a few people something interesting to look at.
Thanks to everyone.

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[Rick Losey]

the serial number lists in the book as Stub twist- lower grade should have 30 inch barrels

looks to be a 0 grade gun - looks to be in decent condition. nice pattern on the barrels

more of a shooter than a collector piece assuming the inside of the barrels are as good

[Dean Romig]

I agree with Rick in that Stub Twist and Twist Steel were only used on the lowest grades.

I'm surprised that the wood is even checkered.

Beautiful even pattern in the barrels. Looks to be a good shooter for sure.






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[Bill Murphy]

It looks pretty well preserved.

[Dylan Salvatore]

Thanks for the reply from both of you. If I were to decide to shoot it as it has twice been described as being a good "shooter" what would I need to know before I do so in order to be safe? I've always heard the "never shoot a damascus barrel gun" stories.

Also, if anyone would like to offer up an approximation of monetary value I would appreciate it. If it was something you guys saw somewhere to buy what would you want to pay for it? I would like to have some baseline before I determine this gun's future. Feel free to just throw a number out, I am not holding anyone to anything!

Thanks again.

[Rick Losey]

being a shooter will depend on the condition of the barrels- how bad is the pitting in the bores

If you say - shinny and no pitting - then i start thinking they have been "cleaned up" meaning honed-

in either case- the next thing you should know is the wall thickness - if they were honed - how much meat is left in there- in most cases - if you are not experienced with them and don't have the tools- determining if it is safe to shoot is best left to an experienced double gun gunsmith- not your local gun shops fix it man.


also - what is the chamber length- most were short chambered 2 1/2 or 2 5/8s for 12's, i go with light loads as much for the aged wood as the metal

horror stories about shooting composite barrels abound- mostly someone knows someone who heard from someone that someone else's barrels burst-

low pressure loads are available form companies such as RST if you do not reload

[wayne goerres]

Dylon if you tell us what city and state your in there may be a member that could look at your gun and give you advise. As for value (with out having gun in hand) It looks like $600.00 to $900.00 if the barrels check out.

[David Dwyer]

I agree with Wayne on value. I purchased a similar gun a little while back for $800.
David

[Brian Dudley]

Overall the gun looks to be good and sound and all there. It has some condition remaning, namely the amount of barrel finish and case still left on the frame. But, it does have some condition issues. Mostly it looks to have some pretty bad rust problems on the forward left side of the frame.

This is the type of gun, as others have said, that people look for as a shooter. One that is sound and has some condition. Not beat to death. If bores are very good, it is realistically around a $1,000 gun. Not much more.

[Dylan Salvatore]

Thank you so much for the helpful input everyone. If at any point anyone would like to add anything, I'm all ears.

[John Cinkoske]

I just see little frames with X's in them, no photos.

[Dylan Salvatore]

Hey John, photo bucket fixed their issues and the photos are back up if you would like to take a peek!

[John Cinkoske]

Nice piece.
Thanks for the heads-up, Dylan!