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John E. Williams
10-10-2015, 02:05 PM
Saturday finally arrived and with it, the promise of crisp Fall weather and a morning spent squirrel hunting.The wife was out of town so I could get up, bang around the house, turn on all the lights, cook bacon as noisily I cared to, and whatever other rackets came to mind. Unfortunately, our little insane cat decided to start singing at 3:00am and woke me up after only a few hours sleep. I yelled at the cat and fell back into a fitful sleep. Overslept, so no bacon. Couldn't find my shells. Remembered I'd already put them in the truck. Finally got on the road where I came upon a wreck about a mile from the house. Everyone had to stop and look at the crumpled bumper and the pretty police lights, but we finally got back underway. See how this is shaping up? After encountering two back roads closed for bridge repairs and detouring accordingly, I still made it into the southern Indiana woods just a few minutes after legal shooting time had arrived.

The plan was to check out a large hardwood "flat" I haven't hunted for several years. In keeping with some semblance of conservation, I'll almost never hunt the same area twice in the same year, and often let several years pass before going back. It had rained most of the day yesterday, so the woods were still damp and very quiet to move around it. A huge F5 tornado passed through this area several years ago and getting into the woods proved a good challenge. While not hit directly, a good number of the larger trees out on the edge had been toppled and created quite the maze to go under, over, and around before clearer areas could be reached. I had gone about a hundred and fifty yards in when an area came into view that was quite squirrelly looking. I saw some white oak and beech trees in the area, and there were a good number of smaller "run" logs lying about. I don't know about your squirrels, but these will often use these downed trees as trails to cover ground quickly and silently. I found a seat here at the base of a large pine tree and settled in to wait.

http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq51/ghostdncr/Parker/Oct10Solace_zpsgpatmakv.jpg


I was carrying the old 1921 Trojan 12 gauge with 30" barrels and choked F/M. As far as squirrel guns go and based on my experience, it would be challenging to find a better candidate. This particular gun has led a VERY full life, based on the condition of its wood and metal, but appears to have been mechanically maintained with some degree of care. It locks up like a vault and the internals operate free, fast, and unerringly. Best of all, I paid less for it than the cost of decent, used 870 Express. I couldn't be much happier with that deal! The bores have a few light flecks of pitting but it's the tightest patterning shotgun I own, except for maybe the big SP-10 with the goose choke screwed in. This shot really appeals to me, taken in the cool, quiet October woods just after sunrise:

http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq51/ghostdncr/Parker/Oct10Trojan_zpsrg1goczd.jpg


About twenty minutes later there was a flash of gray, or at least I thought there was. From the corner of my eye, there was something about forty yards out that looked like neither bird nor wind-blown leaf. I peered through the forest clutter and saw nothing as seconds ticked by. There it was! Just a glimpse of gray fur, perhaps an ear or the tip of a tail, but it was moving on the ground just behind a small root wad. I shouldered the Parker and snicked the safety forward, pointing the long barrels to a clearing I thought the squirrel would likely appear in. The wait was not a long one. It was clear that squirrel wasn't going anywhere so I reloaded and remained in place, marking its location for recovery when I moved on. In a few minutes, another squirrel came up behind me and upon my hearing it, was faced with a ground shot of about six feet! I whirled up onto my knees, shouldering the Parker as I spun with the intention of covering the squirrel until it ran or climbed to a more suitable distance. It dashed into the remains of a small, dry creek bed and ran almost completely out of sight while allowing only two or three glimpses. That was disgusting, but I appreciated the squirrel's cleverness. Here's a very poorly focused shot of the results, but at least it shows the big Parker and the first squirrel it's taken since coming to live with me:

http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq51/ghostdncr/Parker/Oct10Bounty_zps7ryr3bhq.jpg


Later in the morning, I caught another gray bounding along one of the run logs. Forty two paces and that old twelve wiped the log clean! I completely forgot to photograph that one, but left the woods with a brace of fine gray squirrels and a fine old Parker in need of cleaning. Accomplished every single thing I sat out to! I think this old gun will serve just fine as my primary squirrel gun from now on and if I can locate some bismuth, it should work equally well for puddle ducks. There's something about hunting with these old guns that all the wonders of modern technology can't seem to touch. It just seems so much richer an experience...

I think a little post-process antiquing helped this photo dramatically! Opinions?

http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq51/ghostdncr/Parker/Oct10Bounty%20Antique_zpsoctgdctw.jpg

Dean Romig
10-10-2015, 07:04 PM
Hello John - A very nice squirrel hunt to be sure!

Please tell us about the barrels on your Trojan... Could they be composite steel?
Can you provide a close up of the barrels and the barrel flats?





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Brian Dudley
10-10-2015, 09:16 PM
I much prefer squirel hunting with a shotgun. Sure you have to get closer, but less precise.

Rick Losey
10-11-2015, 10:16 AM
the rib says Trojan Steel

i think what you are seeing is "patina"

Dean Romig
10-11-2015, 10:24 AM
Agreed Rick but there are examples of the rib saying one thing and the barrel tubes being something altogether different.





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John E. Williams
10-11-2015, 12:53 PM
Hello John - A very nice squirrel hunt to be sure! Please tell us about the barrels on your Trojan... Could they be composite steel? Can you provide a close up of the barrels and the barrel flats?

Here you go, Dean. So far, everything I've noted about the gun appears to be original and aside from the screw heads, it looks to be unmolested in any way. All the numbers match, the barrels appear uncut, and the exposed metal and wood match up in terms of wear. Man, I wish the rest of the gun matched the condition of that forend under the barrels!

http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq51/ghostdncr/Parker/1921g_zps9hmhcekl.jpg

http://i433.photobucket.com/albums/qq51/ghostdncr/Parker/1921h_zpsrgzzq35h.jpg

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charlie cleveland
10-11-2015, 08:09 PM
a very good storey of the hunt for sure and pictures too...i too hunt with a parker most of the time i carry the old 8 ga a lot if i dont see any squirls i can always look at the gun...i too love the the campadra with these old parkers its like going back a hundred years or so...its even better when your shooting some old shells youve loaded yourself....i sure do like to squirl hunt...charlie

wayne goerres
10-11-2015, 09:57 PM
John I lived in and around Paoli Ind for 25 years. Hunted a lot of squirrels around there. What part of Ind were you hunting.

John E. Williams
10-12-2015, 04:25 AM
John I lived in and around Paoli Ind for 25 years. Hunted a lot of squirrels around there. What part of Ind were you hunting.

I was hunting in the Clark State Forest not far from Henryville, IN. Seems I've found out where they were hiding the chigger hatchery! How long ago did you leave the Paoli area? I've traveled up there a number of times to pheasant hunt at Lost River Game Farm, which is just a little ways northwest of Paoli up Hwy 37.

i too hunt with a parker most of the time i carry the old 8 ga a lot if i dont see any squirls i can always look at the gun...

I would love to have an 8 gauge double! Been looking around for one for many years, but no luck. Well, I've found a few but they were all ridiculously priced, so I had to pass. You should post some more photos of that big gun in your album, Charlie! What's your favorite squirrel load?

wayne goerres
10-12-2015, 05:34 AM
I left Ind. about twenty years ago. I sure miss this time of the year. The best time to hunt squirrels is when the leaves are falling off. By the way it is really fun to pop squirrels with an eight gauge. They do get heavy in a hurry.

charlie cleveland
10-12-2015, 10:06 PM
my favorite load is no 6 shot...in the 8 ga i usally load up 40 grains of bluedot powder and 1 1/2 ounces of no 6 shot...i ve got to take the 8 out soon on a hunt maybe this saturday....charlie

John E. Williams
10-12-2015, 10:31 PM
You are killin' me with that big 8, Charlie. Forty grains of Blue Dot?!?! How can that not have pretty vicious recoil? I've been looking for one of those guns for years and they have always managed to elude me. I recently found a fairly nice (okay...shootable) Parker 10 gauge top-lever hammer gun local, but the bores are rough and it's priced right at the absolute high end of what I'd be willing to give for it at $700. I have an SP-10 Remington that's been my waterfowl gun for years, but I don't reload for it as it doesn't get shot that much. It's not an 8, but those otherwise useless 3.5" hulls could easily be cut down to 2-7/8 and re-purposed...

When are you gonna post some more pics of that big gun? :corn:

charlie cleveland
10-13-2015, 10:38 AM
john 40 grains of bluedot is more like a low powered load in a 8 ga...now 50 to 57 grains will be pretty hefty loads...i ve shot the 57 grain load with 3 ounce of shot..it is full house for sure but the kick is not as bad as you think more like a big shove...i m not to good at posting pictures on account of my cumputer skills...i will get the wife to take pictures of them...i think that hammer 10 would be a good buy..i have several parkers with bad pitts in the barrels and have never had no problems...several guys have 8 gas on here maybe they will show them be a parker or other brand.....the 8 ga i have are in shooting condition butin rough condition...i have a 8 ga fa loomis with 4 inch chambers with 36inch barrels...a parker 8 ga with cut barrels from 32 inch to 26 1/4 that is the 25 parker 8 ga made....a top lever hammer gun with27 1/4 inch barrels that is was in the worst condition you ever seen...still rough but shoots now....and a parker 8 ga with hammers fish tail lever 32 inch barrels..plus this gun and the gun in rough rough shape are sisters they were 2 of 6 guns sent to california...long storey on how they got back to gether... charlie

wayne goerres
10-13-2015, 08:11 PM
John here are a couple for you to look at. Sorry about the pics I am not a photographer. The first one is Belgium and the secound is my W&C Scott (safe queen).

John E. Williams
10-13-2015, 08:28 PM
Holy crap, Wayne! Is that Scott original or a refinish? What a beautiful gun that is, and I'd probably leave it in the safe, as well. I've ran across a few of the old Belgian 8's but they were all terribly loose and poorly cared for. I'll keep looking but it seems to be getting harder and harder to find good old guns like that at a reasonable price. I made an offer on that 10 gauge Parker mentioned earlier. Now, we wait...

How about that big Parker 8ga. listed on gunsamerica right now? Description says "PARKER PH IN RARE 8GA WITH 38" BARRELS, VISIBLE PATINA ON PLAIN TWIST BARRELS, SILVER BROWN RECEIVER WITH SOME SPOTTING, NICE STRONG ENGRAVING, MARKED P ON WATER TABLE WHICH HAS NICE CASE COLORS AND SHOWS ALMOST NO SIGN OF USE ON THE FACE AROUND THE FIRING PIS, GOOD WOOD WITH NO CRACKS AND SOME HUNTING DINGS, BEAUTIFUL SHINY BORE, 1 OF 11 38" PARKER 8GA GUNS AND ONE OF 2 MARKED PT 8GA 38" IN THE PARKER BOOK(CHART ON PAGE 1003), MADE IN 1913" Just a hair under $20k.

:envy:

wayne goerres
10-13-2015, 09:16 PM
The gun was completely restored by Brad Bachelder. I would say that 20k is the I wish price for a PH anything. I guess time will tell. 8ga guns arn't getting any easier to find.

Eric Grims
10-15-2015, 05:38 AM
Nice story on your morning in the woods. I shot almost all of my squirrel with a Trojan 16 for years. Lately I have been using a model 42 .410 which is also a fun way to go.

Mike Franzen
10-19-2015, 06:32 AM
I liked the story and the pics. Those big 8 ga parkers are usually very expensive but who wouldn't want one? Got a good squirrel recipe? PM me.

John E. Williams
10-19-2015, 09:34 AM
Got a good squirrel recipe? PM me.

I'll post my default recipe here, Mike. It's a fairly common way to cook them among my friends, but some folks may not have thought of it.

First, get some squirrels. One will feed me just fine but if you're really hungry, feeding the family, or expecting company, get more. I think squirrels taken with a Parker always taste better, but that's just my opinion.

After thoroughly cleaning the squirrels, cut each into six pieces. Four legs, back strap, and rib section. Some people like the heads, but I don't fool with them. Soak the pieces for awhile (overnight is best, but a few hours works just fine) in heavy salt water. This draws the blood out, and I've always done this in the refrigerator if going on for any length of time.

Getting ready for the first cooking step, I dredge the squirrel pieces in Kentucky Kernel seasoned flour. If KK isn't available in your area, it can be ordered online or there are numerous recipes out there that approximate this mix. Put some oil in a skillet and get it just hot enough so that a droplet of water flicked into the oil sizzles and pops and pretty quickly evaporates. Dredge the squirrel pieces again right before laying them into the hot oil.

Fry the squirrel for about three minutes per side. If your temperature is right, this will produce a crispy, light golden crust on the meat. Right before you turn the pieces, sprinkle a bunch of that Kentucky Kernel into the skillet, as if you were going to make white gravy. This will pay dividends later.

When done, lay the squirrel pieces on a couple folds of paper towel to absorb the excess oil. Continue stirring the skillet to finish the flour mixture you sprinkled in at the halfway point. When it looks right (vague, I know, but it'll have a nice golden, crunchy look to it), skim out what you can while leaving as much oil as possible in the skillet.

While the squirrel rests, get your crock pot out. Cut up some onions, carrots, potatoes, and anything else you fancy with a pot roast. I'll sometimes throw in a small can of sweet corn and some green beans. Start loading stuff into the crock pot in any order that appeals to you. Doesn't seem to matter in the least as it'll cook up just fine, regardless. Add salt and pepper in moderate amounts, and I've found a sprig of rosemary works well with this dish as long as you like the taste of rosemary. Now cover your ingredients with water and seal it up.

I cook this on high for about five hours, or set the pot on low if you want to cook it all day. This will make the vegetables very soft, almost mushy, so modify this to add the vegetables later on if you like them firmer. A couple of hours before it's finished, I'll add about half a cup of the seasoned flour and let the reduced liquid set about making its own gravy. I like a really coarse, unsweetened cornbread with this recipe but it's pretty much a whole meal in a bowl. Mix, match, add or subtract to suit your individual taste. You won't go wrong and even the toughest old, white-muzzled squirrel will be tender and the meat practically falling off the bones!

charlie cleveland
10-19-2015, 08:55 PM
you got them squirls done yet....charlie