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CraigThompson
11-22-2014, 09:22 PM
First day of the VA gun season was last Saturday . I went out that AM with the old Parker hammer gun loaded with tweleve 0 Buck pellets in a SP-10 wad with six 9mm cases full of Winchester Grex buffer all over top 30 grains of SR7625 and set off with a WIN 209 primer . I also had with me in case the deer didn't get close a Remington 700BDL I had rebarreled to 6.5-06 last year and that one had handloaded Nosler 130 AccuBonds .

In the AM I saw two bucks I could not get a bullet to even though they were no more then 50 yards a way .

Went back out around 14:00 and carried the samne battery . Long about 16:30 I had what I thought were two doe coming towards me . The smaller one walked towards the scent candle I had out and was going to pass me at 15 yards . So when it got there I let fly and it went 10-15 yards and rolled up . That was with the right barrel , I quickly turned and fired at the larger doe with the left barrel at a lasered 26 yards . At the boom of the gun she dropped like a sack of potatoes .

Turned out the smaller one was a button and the doe was piebald .

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I wanna get a roundball load worked out for this gun . Seems Track of the Wolf markets a bag mold for a .760" roundball . Might just give that one a shot it should work in a SP-10 in this gun and patched in my muzzle loader 10 gauge SxS !

http://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/PartDetail.aspx/1204/2/MOLD-BAG-760

There were a number of firsts on this day for me !

First deer with this gun .
First time I ever took a double with buckshot .
First time I ever took a piebald .

CraigThompson
11-22-2014, 09:30 PM
Same time I got this 10 gauge I also picked up a Parker circa 1891 12 gauge G grade . This one has worked very nicely with the Lyman 525 grain sabot slug loaded with the Claybuster knockoff of the WIN AA12 wad . And of course pushed with SR7625 and lit with a WIN 209 . I found these slugs did pretty well in the gun at 25 yards I have yet to try further . Three slugs from the right barrel at 25 yards were in about 2" and about 2" to the right . Three shots from the left barrel were two inches to the left and about a 2" group . I am thinking they "should" cross at about 35 yards . Incidently I tried the slugs as they dropped from the mold and they did okay , but later someone suggested I fill the hollow bases with hot glue and they shot a shade better .

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This gun had a severe break a number of years ago and someone put forth a good deal of effort to repair .

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The stock seriel numbers to the gun and has a skeleton buttplate !
That was kinda a selling point for me .

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Here's the Lyman slug I'm using , reminds me of a air rifle pellet on roids !

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The right and left groups fired from the gun at 25 yards .

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CraigThompson
11-22-2014, 09:33 PM
Both these guns came from the same person . We recently sold a rather old 10 gauge lifter gun that also came from the same person on GB and I believe a certain New York gunsmith on this forum purchased the gun . Gun was missing the firing pins and bushings .

CraigThompson
11-22-2014, 09:34 PM
Gonna do the Blackwater NWR thing again December 1 . My plan is to take my Savage 220 20 gauge bolt action rifled slug gun and this Parker 10 gauge :cool:

charlie cleveland
11-23-2014, 10:26 AM
that big ten done the job..congratulations. i too have been going to get me one of those ten ga slug moulds from the wolf...that would be a big plus to get a deer with a ten ga slug..i got to get one with the 8 ga first though i got close a coupla evenings ago.nice pictures...charlie

CraigThompson
11-23-2014, 07:27 PM
That roundball will hopefully work in SP-10 wads as well as patched in my muzzle loader MacFarlane double .

That Lyman pellet slug should do well enough for all my 12 gauge guns .

But I need to find something suitable for the 16's and possibly a pellet looking slug for the 20's .

I've got a couple 20 Sterlings and this little VHE I got about two months ago that I wanna do the slug/buckshot thing in as well . This little VHE I've known for about 45 years and to be honest never thought I'd be able to get it from the owner . But he up and wanted to sell it and offered it to me first . So I bought it PDQ .

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charlie cleveland
11-23-2014, 08:48 PM
thats a mighty fine looking 20 ga you got there.should be a fine deer gun too...

CraigThompson
11-23-2014, 09:50 PM
thats a mighty fine looking 20 ga you got there.should be a fine deer gun too...

The darn thing is choked about M&F . I took it out a day or so after I got it and broke 23 out of 25 at skeet. Both the birds I missed I missed with the full choked barrel . Granted I expect I would have missed them with IC as well but that's beside the point !

Incidently that was with a mounted gun . The following round I shot a little Philly 20 gauge Sterling 26" IC/M and shot low gun and broke 24 of 25 .

Got my eye open for a Smith Ideal grade 20 gauge now and I'll have enough 20 gauge guns . What with 2 Sterlings , the VHE and a couple Belgian Superposed's .

Mike Franzen
11-24-2014, 12:42 AM
Taking those two deer should qualify you for the prestigious "Parker Doubles" pin.

CraigThompson
11-24-2014, 11:41 AM
Taking those two deer should qualify you for the prestigious "Parker Doubles" pin.

I dunno they weren't in the air .

I was always of the opinion when one got that type thing they needed to be flying . Or possibly in the case of rabbits running . These two deer weren't really running the first was kinda walking/creeping along and when I popped the second she was standing perfectly still as she didn't know where the first shot came from .

William Davis
11-24-2014, 06:16 PM
Craig Ballistic Products sells Round Balls. Might want to try them for size before buying a mold. Opps they look like 12 G Balls, .715. Dixie Gun works has .730's. Dixie always a good place to look for obscure stuff.



William

CraigThompson
11-25-2014, 10:43 AM
Craig Ballistic Products sells Round Balls. Might want to try them for size before buying a mold. Opps they look like 12 G Balls, .715. Dixie Gun works has .730's. Dixie always a good place to look for obscure stuff.



William

I'll probably just get the bag mold and if it doesn't work I have a neighbor that'll more then liely take it off my hands !

I talked him into buying the POS J Manton side lever 10 gauge I had LOL's !

Incidently I tried the 12 gauge GH damascus gun at 50 yards about an hour ago with my home cast pellet looking slugs . The right barrel still prints a nice group about 2" to the right of POA , but the left barrel at 50 yards now makes it's group about 5" LEFT of POA . Seems the barrels on this gun were not regulated to cross at all .

Destry L. Hoffard
11-25-2014, 03:15 PM
I think that still counts as far as a doubles pin goes. But I see you aren't a member of the PGCA so I guess it's kind of a moot point.

Destry

Daryl Corona
11-25-2014, 07:53 PM
Seems the barrels on this gun were not regulated to cross at all .[/QUOTE]

I bet those barrels were regulated with shot, not a cast pellet, when PB built them.

charlie cleveland
11-25-2014, 10:24 PM
i think a 2 inch at 50 yards is super for a slug gun and 5 inches ain t bad..if my 8 ga would shoot that good at 50 yards i woulda done got that deer with it.. charlie

CraigThompson
11-26-2014, 06:23 PM
i think a 2 inch at 50 yards is super for a slug gun and 5 inches ain t bad..if my 8 ga would shoot that good at 50 yards i woulda done got that deer with it.. charlie

That wasn't the group size at 50 yards that's how far they hit from POA . The right barrel was still about 2 inches right and the left barrel at 50 was now 5" left .