12g load what is yours?

[Tim Lindstrom]

I want to apologize up front if this is a duplicate as I did not see any in the search. I am brand new to these old irons but would like to load a low pressure smokeless powder load.

I need the 2 1/2 inch hull. What hull and a receipe do you use. Do you just cut down your hulls? papers? wads? Any help is appreciated.

[John Campbell]

I assume your Parker has the original 2 1/2 or 2 9/16 inch chambers. Most of mine do.

So... just get your hands on some AA, STS or other skivved mouth hulls. Stick with ONE type.

Don't worry about cutting them down. You don't need to.

Then get some Claybuster 3/4 oz wads (pink) and follow any of the recipes that are printed on the back of the bag label.

You will be delighted at how this light load works on clays and small birds like doves or quail. For pheasant, use 7/8 oz loads with wads from the same maker.

[Rich Anderson]

I use the 2 1/2 RST hull scrounged from various shoots. 20 gr of International clays and a Gulandi wad (GU-1222) ignited by a Win 209 primer and either 1oz or 7/8 oz of shot. With the GU-1222 wad I use a Cherrio as a filler to obtain the best crimp. 1 oz loads are 1200 FPS and 6800PSI.

[Tim Lindstrom]

My gun measures 2 5/8 as close as I can tell. I load all STS 2 3/4 hulls for my regular guns so I would LIKE to shoot them but am very worried. HOW important is cutting them down? If you load a 5kpsi load and put a 2 3/4 hull in a 2 5/8 gun it should be ok? I use 700x and do not see anything lower than 7200. What is the powder that can get that low?

[John Campbell]

Tim:
Sherman Bell and Tom Armbrust tested 2 3/4 inch cases as compared to 2 1/2 inch cases in short chambers years ago. Pressure increase with a skivved hull like the STS was only 25 psi or so. In other words, virtually nothing.

I've shot 2 3/4 inch hulls in all my short double guns for years, and over tens of thousands of shots, never saw a hint of pressure problems.

Just get the Claybuster 3/4 oz wads, load about 14 or 15 grs of Red Dot and don't worry about it. Velocity will be about 1150 and pressure about 5700 psi.

I'm sure you can reason out a load with 700X too. Or call Claybuster for data.

[Daryl Corona]

Tim;
Try Clays powder. Very clean burning and just a wonderful 3/4oz. load in the 12. Go to Hodgdon's website for a list of their loads and don't worry about 2 1/2" vs. 2 3/4". John's advice is correct.

[Tim Lindstrom]

Thank you guys. I am sure that info is second nature to you guys but was unsettling to me to just try it without some advice. thanks again for the replies.

[Brian Dudley]

http://parkerguns.org/forums/showthread.php?t=10574

[Ken Hill]

Brian and Rich,

Are using a Mec to reload the 2.5" RSTs? If you are, how do you get the height set-up for the shorter hulls?

Thanks
Ken

[Rick Losey]

Brian and Rich,

Are using a Mec to reload the 2.5" RSTs? If you are, how do you get the height set-up for the shorter hulls?

Thanks
Ken

MEC makes a short kit to raise the crimping stations and fill tube

http://www.mecreloaders.com/order/OrderItem.asp?PartNbr=1008849

can be had at better prices
http://www.ballisticproducts.com/prodinfo.asp?number=1309140

[Rich Anderson]

Ken I started out using a Mec Sizemaster with the short kit. I shoot quite a bit and had Mec make me their 9000 progressive loader for the 2.5 inch hull. I have one in 16 & 20 and he 12 will be next. If you shoot a lot this is the way to go.

[Ed Blake]

Remington hulls, Win 209, Claybuster 7/8 oz wad and 18.3 grns Clay Dot. Approx 6,500 psi. the 3/4 oz load works great as well. All the pellets arrive at the same time, nice patterns.

[Paul Harm]

Claybuster wads for 12ga 7/8oz is CB-0178-12 and for the 3/4oz is the CB-0134-12. They include data in the 3/4oz bag - Red Dot is one of them. Promo loads the same as Red Dot and is about the cheapest powder anywhere. Everyone has their favorite powder - I bought 8#'s of Clay Dot but sold it to my buddy - I thought it kicked more than 700X or Promo - he thought the opposite. My last order was for 16#s of Promo, so I'll be using that in my 12s and 10s for a bit. A 3/4oz load in the 12 is easy on the shoulder and the wallet.