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charlie cleveland
08-17-2013, 08:01 PM
well this evening i patterned the old gun with00 buckshot 9 pellets to the load and made by winchester..the gun has 32 inch barrels and chokes are modified and full..range was 40 yards target was the 30 inch circle.. i tried the full choke barrel first it put all 9 pellets in the 30 inch circle but the measured spread was only 24 inches.. very good i thought.. then i tried the modified choke barrel it only put 5 of the pellets in the circle of 30 inches and was spread the full circle...so definately the full choke does make a big differance even in shooting buckshot. charlie

Dean Romig
08-17-2013, 09:17 PM
Thirty inches is quite a lot more than the height of a buck's body at the boiler room area... I'd keep my shots at 30 yards or less with that load.

Jim Partlow
08-17-2013, 10:38 PM
Charlie .... Where are hunting that allows buckshot for deer? Have you
Tried any slugs? I have a LC Smith long range too, I haven't had
A good opportunity to put it through it's paces yet. Should make a
Great Turkey gun. Jim P

charlie cleveland
08-17-2013, 11:15 PM
jim i live in north mississippi we are allowed to shoot buckshoot or slugs or rifles either..my lc smith long range patterns good on the test board with 91.5 percent in the 30 inch circle useing 7 1/2 shot..it should be a good turkey gun..jim tell us about your lc smith long range... heh dean now that only measured 24 inches across that pattern.. your rite about the distance with buckshot shots should be kept fairly close...lots of deer have been lost and died and not found shooting buckshot at too far of distance...i only know of one deer that got away shot by me shooting buckshot most either dropped in tracks or went no farther than 40 yards i do keep my shots to a close distance but i do like to no what each of my old shotguns are capable of... charlie

Jim Partlow
08-17-2013, 11:47 PM
My LC Smith is a 1924 vintage Ideal grade, 3" chambers. Hope to use it
For geese and perhaps Turkey. I also have a LC Smith field grade in
10 bore. Used that gun in S. Dakota for pheasants. Loaded up 120 grains
Black powder and 1-3/8 oz. 6 shot in brass hulls. Even got some
Birds! I deer hunt in Wis. And Mn., no buck shot up here. I have
Considered loading up old Belgium double muzzle-loader with
Ball and trying that during black powder season.

charlie cleveland
08-18-2013, 10:09 AM
jim you have a fairly rare gun there in that 3 in ideal grade..i like these old 3inch guns your gun should make a good goose gun..i m not a goose hunter not enough in my area to really hunt...now there is several turkey around me and thats my game..those old 10 ga smiths will really reach out there it sounds like you had a good load for those pheasants..sorry you cant hunt with buckshot to me its a good deer stopper if range is kept close... if i was you i would load up that old belgum gun and go for it..i m trying to get a deer with a 8 ga hammer parker with a pumpkin ball load did not get one last year with it but it will be back in the woods this fall.. jim do you have any parkers... charlie

Jim Partlow
08-18-2013, 11:58 AM
I have two, a VH and a GH, both 16's. They are at my gunsmith
Getting a couple of things fixed. Do you have any recommendations
For non-toxic loads for 3" Smith? Factory loads? If I reloaded
I would use bismuth, nice shot, or ITX. Bismuth is hard to find and not
Sure if bismuth or nice shot would be better.
I like the Idea of using 8 gauge with pumpkin ball, that's
Almost elephant worthy!

Mills Morrison
08-18-2013, 03:15 PM
I highly recommend Nice Shot. 10 gauge Nice Shot in my Parker NH made the cleanest kills I have ever seen.

Charlie, You are lucky to have that LC Smith Long Range. When I get a few others off my wish list, I am going to get one too.

Bill Murphy
08-18-2013, 04:44 PM
Jim, not only is a 3" Ideal a rare gun, a ten gauge Field Grade is probably just as rare. Tell us about it.

Jim Partlow
08-18-2013, 07:03 PM
Bill.....The field grade 10gauge is in very nice shape, mint damascus
Bores and locks up tight. Great story on how I acquired it. I stopped
At a local pawn shop I frequent and asked if they had any good " old
stuff". They showed me a couple of guns and then pulled out this old
double. They wern't too impressed with it, due to the Damascus barrels.
Honestly, I wasn't too impressed myself they told me it was a twelve gauge.
They offered it to me for a price I couldn't refuse. I was sure happy when
I got home and realized I had purchased a 10 gauge.

charlie cleveland
08-18-2013, 09:42 PM
great storey about the 10 ga smith. i bought a gun listed as a 12 ga lifter parker and it turned out to be a 10 ga...i do not have any reload for no tox in the 3 inch shell somebody should have..maybe they ll speak up... my old long range got its first live target last evening my wife seen it out the window and i got the old elsie out and got to about 25 yards..it was a armadilo...wont be digging in my yard no more... charlie

Jim Partlow
08-18-2013, 10:33 PM
Charlie..... I just love surprises like that. When I purchased my
Ideal grade they didn't realize it was factory chambered 3". They
Stuck by their original price. Armidilo tastes like chicken doesn't it?

wayne goerres
08-18-2013, 11:07 PM
only certain parts. some parts tast like beef andothers tast like pork. You should have shot it with your 8ga.

Mills Morrison
08-19-2013, 03:22 PM
Charlie, Is this LC Smith Long Range a recent acquisition? Sounds like a nice gun either way. I bet it would be good on turkeys

charlie cleveland
08-19-2013, 08:23 PM
i have had this gun for about 3 years it is a field grade 3 inch chamber long range gun 30inch barrels modified choke both barrels.. was not happy with the modified chokes so found a set of 32 inch barrels on ebay they were 3 inch long range barrels full and modified chokes..these barrels snapped rite on the action but i had to take a die grinder and take about 1/64 off the barrel forearm lug the forearm fits both barrels like they were made for it... i woulda shot that armidillo with the old 8 ga but i got th the elsie first.. i ve never tried eating a armidillo but i guess if i was bad hungary i mite try one.. charlie

Jim Partlow
08-19-2013, 09:34 PM
Armadillo Meatballs......
1lb. Armadillo meat, minced or ground
1egg
2 tbls. Celery,minced
2 tbls. Onions, minced
1 tbls parsley, minced
1 tsp. Salt
1/4 tsp. Pepper
Flour
Oil
Boil the armadillo for 30 min., bone,
And mince the meat or grind it. Mix everything
In the recipe except oil and flour. Form
Mixture into 1-inch balls and refrigerate
For 30 min. or longer. When ready to cook,
heat oil in frying pan. Roll balls in flour,
then fry until golden brown. Mmm Mmm good!

wayne goerres
08-19-2013, 10:13 PM
Charlie I was kidding about the beef and pork. As long as kroger and win dixie are in business I would forgo the armidillo.

Mills Morrison
08-20-2013, 04:04 PM
A friend of mine said "if it tastes like chicken . . . . eat chicken"

charlie cleveland
08-20-2013, 06:01 PM
i ate a snapping turtle once therew was part of it that tasted pretty good. but fellows lets be honest when you beat the taste of chicken youve really done something.. good thing i did not have the lc smith when granny use to ring the old rooster s neck..... charlie

Mills Morrison
08-20-2013, 07:03 PM
Alligator tastes like chicken with extra flavor. It is quite good, if a little tough