New Llewellin Setter

[Wilmurt]

Bob, I don’t know the New England local breeders. Max came from IL (Caren Mansfield/JD Waters) and their breeding has been focused on close working grouse/woodcock dogs. The new pup is coming out of IN (Byron Sanders) who is breeding for field trials and upland hunting dogs. There are only a few other Llewellin breeders I would get a dog from including Dashwood (TX) and Paint River (MI). The four I mention here have very defined breeding programs and are very involved with UC Davis’s Llewellin genetic diversity program that helps them breed the right dogs. Check out the various Llewellin FB groups where you may find a breeder you like.

[Big D]

For a number of years I was involved with Field Trial Springers. If we wanted to get a setter owner riled up, we would tell him that setters were the peasants' dogs - used to poach birds by pointing them and then netting them. Springers were the royalty's dogs - flushing game to be shot

[bob lyons]

Thanks
We are trying to decide between a English pointer or a Setter.
I have had both and it is tough decision. I really want to visit the breeder and see the parents and other offspring.
On the funny side the best hunting dog I ever had was a springer not because of the breed but due to the fact that from 8 weeks old he was my constant companion and we hunted starting in October in mass and maine ending in February for 10 years. Then family and work took center stage.

[William Woods]

Originally Posted by Tom Jay

Bob, I don’t know the New England local breeders. Max came from IL (Caren Mansfield/JD Waters) and their breeding has been focused on close working grouse/woodcock dogs. The new pup is coming out of IN (Byron Sanders) who is breeding for field trials and upland hunting dogs. There are only a few other Llewellin breeders I would get a dog from including Dashwood (TX) and Paint River (MI). The four I mention here have very defined breeding programs and are very involved with UC Davis’s Llewellin genetic diversity program that helps them breed the right dogs. Check out the various Llewellin FB groups where you may find a breeder you like.

Byron Sanders is a good guy, I bought my Parker Repo 28 GA. from him many years ago. I can say the same for his hunting partner and trainer Richie Dixon and his son. Richie is located in Mt. Vernon, IN.

[bob lyons]

Thanks

[Ed Norman]

your dog is stunning!!!

[Mike of the Mountain]

Originally Posted by Tom Jay

Dean, two photos of Max on point, first is what I consider to be traditional Llewellin straight out tail set and the second is when he gets low in a real old school crouch set with tail straight out and almost crawls while locking up the bird. Lucy's high tail set for a Llewellin is less common for this breed but becoming more popular for "style points" which field trial judges like to see nowadays and was my purpose in picking this dog's pedigrees this time. Regardless of what setter you choose, Llewellin, Ryman, Old Hemlock or even a field setter...there's nothing better than a Setter.

Nice photos!! All four of our Setters point with the classic "flat tail" too. As you said, nothing better than an English Setter!!