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Unread 12-07-2010, 10:33 AM   #1
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Being a bit nit picky here. The term used in the FAQ to describe the forward (muzzle) end of the floor plate could lead to a bit of confusion. Doll's head is normally associated with a rib extension that fits into the receiver.

Doll's Head - A rib extension on a break-open gun, ending in a circular or semi-circular shape in plan (resembling the head of a doll), mating into a similarly-shaped recess in the top of the receiver, designed to resist the tendency of the barrels to pull away from the standing breech when firing. Because an action's centerpoint of flexing when firing is at the base of the standing breech, not at the hingepin, a passive doll's head extension makes an effective extra fastener, even without additional mechanical locks operated by the opening lever.

Here is the link. A great guide to gun terminology with many photos as well.
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Had a look at two dismantled VH's. The left side screws bearing the "-" mark include:
Cocking Crank Pin Stop Screw
Hammer Screw
Hammer fastening screw
Floor Plate screw (front)

The corresponding right side screws are not marked.

Both have the longer rear floor plate screw, so there is no need for a "+" mark. I have had three apart and have not seen a "+" mark on any of them. All have had the longer rear floor plate screw.

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Had a look at two dismantled VH's. The left side screws bearing the "-" mark include:
Cocking Crank Pin Stop Screw
Hammer Screw
Hammer fastening screw
Floor Plate screw (front)

The corresponding right side screws are not marked.

Both have the longer rear floor plate screw, so there is no need for a "+" mark. I have had three apart and have not seen a "+" mark on any of them. All have had the longer rear floor plate screw.

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Jack, what year is the newest of the three?

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150146 (first I took apart with a lot of issues - all gone now) 1909
This is the gun that got me deeply into PGCA forums
145522 (family gun that is now a very good paper weight) 1907
This is the gun that made me find PGCA
108603 (affectionately known as "second chance gun") 1902
This is the gun with lots of pictures in my albums in bits and pieces

Last two are still in pieces. I suffer from way too many things on the go and next to nothing finalized. My good wife occasionally suggests that one thing should get done. Those are red letter days because I actually finish something. She has not suggested yet that I finish the guns, just things like the garage door not working, all sorts of audio/video hookups that she wants so old stuff can become reborn as digital. She has a grand music collection and I know there cannot be enough time left to hear each track once. And then there's the broken china doll and the list goes on. but I do get some gun time and she feels it is most of the time. I'm sure I'm not the only one here with such a dilemma.

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Jack, don't feel like you are alone. I turned 50 in August and figured I had a few years of working left. Well, my hands finally said 'no more' and I am no longer working. When the legal mess(es) are over with, I will call it my 2nd retirement. I am bored, to say the least, and find myself piddling with projects in my basement shop. I just picked up a Model 1871 Mauser carbine that will be a fun shooter. It was made in 1877, the same as my 12 gauge Lifter. I should be able to keep myself busy with this and that, but I am finding it hard to work up the ambition to attack household stuff when I have a firearm or cartridges that need my attention more! I hope this retirement thing gets better. There are almost 10 months 'til the Ruffed Grouse can be pursued. Cheers!
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