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These are modern loads- the equivalent of the classic 3 1/4 dram/1 1/4 oz/ 2 3/4" pigeon load. I have shot hundreds of them in Niceshot and lead. RST also makes 3 1/2 and 3 3/4 dram equivalent loads both being IMHO noticably stiffer than the 3 1/4 DRE one. I use the light load routinely in my 1893 Purdey Whitworth barreled pigeon gun and my 1894 32" Titanic barreled D grade #2 frame Parker hammer in the live bird ring.