24" PHE 16 - Page 3

edgarspencer · 01-12-2013, 01:37 AM

The Serialization book said my 24" 16 was 'sposed to be 28". I got a letter that also said 28", and I was convinced from the physical evidence that the gun was right as rain. There was order book and stock book info, so I accepted what the letter said. Was I too trusting of the letter? Isn't the data available to the researcher the same data that was used to publish the Ser. Book?
However, I'm not going to believe the book on that GH you were holding last Saturday, Dean. It says the gun is an ejector gun, and I don't know how someone could chop out ejectors, add to extractor fore ends, and remove trips from the action.
The table on the top right of page 268 of TPS says there were NO 24" Steel barreled PH guns.
Do you trust TPS? Look at the lovely 20 bore hammer C grade with Titanic Steel barrels on all of page 295, and then go to the tables on page 298 and halfway down the left side of the page it says the ONLY TL C grade with Titanic Barrels was one 12 gauge.

Dean Romig · 01-12-2013, 06:01 AM

Never say never... even when it comes to questioning the "bible". Anything is possible.

Bill Murphy · 01-12-2013, 09:56 AM

The Serialization Book and the production figures in TPS were compiled from the stock books. At the time of the publication of TPS, the order books had not been copied or studied. Neither book covers all the bases. Once the order books were studied, much more information was available, but it was too late to include that information in the two books. The authors did use some little information from the order books for compilation of the charts in the appendix, but not for the "Grades" section as far as I am aware.

Jean Swanson · 01-12-2013, 05:07 PM

Bill :

Not to contradict you ,but it is my understanding that Roy Guther copied the stock books at Remington to establish the basic data base for the Parker Story , but he also went thru the order books an compiled basic info on guns of D grade and above .This info was used by Charlie Price to compile the techinical statistics for the Parker Story . After the Parker Story was published ,permission was granted by Remington to allow Fjestad to creat the publication of the "Identification & Serialization " using the info previously memtioned . In conclusion , the Identification & Serialization book contains more info than just stock books ,but has excluded ALL info contained in order books of grades BELOW D grade . This is from memory from being aroud the authors of the Parker Story . This should clarify some of the myth .

Either Charlie Price or Bill Mullins can varify this .
Respectfully
Allan

Aaron Davis · 01-14-2013, 08:00 PM

Hi Guys, I am a new member who just purchased a Parker. I knew nothing about them till I got this one. The serial # is 76614, which the chart says was made in 1893. It is a 16 gauge double barrel 28" long. The serial numbers match on all three pieces. The barrel has an 0 stamped on it. The other part has a C and a 3 with a little 10 beside it and up a little bit. It is not a very ornate gun, unless the engraving has been worn off over the years. There is also a fancy T with curves over the top and bottom. On the butt end of the stock, it shows a dog with a duck in its mouth. Can anyone out there tell me anything about this gun. I would really appreciate it.

edgarspencer · 01-14-2013, 08:10 PM

Aaron, the 'book' describes your gun as having plain twist barrels, so it is either a grade 0, or grade 1, Top lever hammer gun, 16 ga., 28" barrels. With an 0 frame it will likely, but not definitely, have a lightened water table (Grooves milled in the receiver flats which mate to the barrels. These are lovely shooting guns. I'll say it before the masses; Post pictures please!

Aaron Davis · 01-14-2013, 08:15 PM

It does have a 0 on the barrel and it also says Twist at the end of the name. Thanks for the info. I traded a $180 dollar 22 pistol for it and was hoping I didn't get stuck. I'll try and figure out how to post the pictures. Thanks for the info.

Dunnigun · 01-14-2013, 08:17 PM

That would be an awesome teal gun in the rice fields. They just take your hat off when the fly by, and that gun might swing quick enough to stop 'em!

edgarspencer · 01-14-2013, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Aaron Davis

It does have a 0 on the barrel and it also says Twist at the end of the name. Thanks for the info. I traded a $180 dollar 22 pistol for it and was hoping I didn't get stuck. I'll try and figure out how to post the pictures. Thanks for the info.

I think you can get a six pack of $180 pistols for it. In the mean time, hang your head in shame, you lucky dog.

Mills · 01-14-2013, 08:21 PM

Unless the gun is in terrible shape, you got yourself a real deal.