C grade photos requested

Bruce Day · 07-30-2011, 02:17 PM

I've been asked to do a presentation on C grades. I think I will particularly discuss and show engraving styles and variations according to different periods. While I have some C's, a larger sampling would be appreciated. If you have a C, please email me or post photos of the side and bottom panel engraving with either the SN or the year of the gun.

After the presentation, I will do an article for PP publication.

Thank you for your help.

Bruce Day

wmbruceday@gmail.com

By the way, I talked to Doc Van and he will bring a couple C's to the meeting, the first a wonderful 20ga and the other a highly interesting 12ga with two Parker barrels, one a smoothbore and the other grooved for slugs. One of the barrels has an interesting "made for" rib inscription.

Brush Buster · 07-30-2011, 05:05 PM

Hello Bruce ,This is my 20 Ga. CHE Remington era gun , "Serial #240983 " this is the gun I brought to Pintail a couple of years back for " Show and Tell "

! All numbers match and we decided at the time it is a Runge engraved gun ! Hope this helps ! Russ

C grade · 07-31-2011, 08:25 AM

What was the date range Runge was engraving for Parker. I have an 1911 vintage gun whose engraving looks very similar the this C
David

Bruce Day · 07-31-2011, 11:21 AM

David, there are father and son Runges, dates given in TPS. Both worked after 1911.

Bruce Day, Parker novice apprentice third class.

Bill Murphy · 07-31-2011, 05:18 PM

I don't believe the elder Mr. Runge was an engraver. I may be wrong. Mr. McCormack is the authority on Mr. Runge the younger and hopefully he will comment. Russ, I sniffed out your gun at the Vintagers and have only one thing to say. "There lay a shotgun." I stole that line from John Amber, and I have used it only a few times. Bruce's Remington C and your Remington C are a wonderful pair.

Bruce Day · 07-31-2011, 07:28 PM

In the last years, G grade Rem Parkers had quail engraved on the floor plate. The Russ C seems to me made by the same hand as the late G quail.

I don't know what to make of the barrel breech wedges. I have not seen that ever on a C, but I know that end of production guns sometimes differed from the norm.

Thanks to all who have sent photos. I'm still looking for more. The larger the sampling, the better the results can be. I recall one author who wrote that C's were just like D's with a border and that was an instance of fooling the public. I suggest that statement could have only been made with inadequate sampling, and I am trying to be as complete as possible.

Bill Murphy · 07-31-2011, 08:09 PM

I agree with Bruce's comment about the "difference". There is a difference between the D and C.

Autumn Daze · 07-31-2011, 08:40 PM

Bruce, Where is this presentation taking place?

Dean Romig · 08-01-2011, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Bruce Day

I don't know what to make of the barrel breech wedges. I have not seen that ever on a C, but I know that end of production guns sometimes differed from the norm.

Very true Bruce. Perhaps you have not held and examined Russ' CHE but when you do you will find that it has several features rarely, if ever, seen on earlier C's. The unique checkering on both the stock and forend had us all questioning it's authenticity but with the trigger guard carefully removed - all doubt was removed. The "Jackson Parker" is truly unique among Parkers.

Dean Romig · 08-01-2011, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Suponski

Bruce, Where is this presentation taking place?

Yes Bruce, please tell us more.