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Richard i wii second that. I had not heard a woodcock flush for 12 years until i got mine 2 years ago. Pricey but it makes all the difference, my sons no longer ask me why i did not shoot a bird. The answer was i did not see it until to late. I can now tell direction and distance to look and it has helped a lot. I can now understand my granddaughters. Dean you will be amazed, you can get them on approval and return if not to your liking.
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