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Brian Stucker
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 Posted: Sun May 17th, 2009 11:58 pm

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Wayne, I am happy to share that spot with anyone. It is not heavily fished since most anglers want both bigger water and fish. Your friend can easily find that creek by Googling Georgetown CA and identifying Slab Creek maybe 5 miles east. There are several logging roads that are right turns off the main road. Please report how he does.

We have a Putah Creek that flows from the Monticello Dam on Lake Berryessa that used to be a great trout stream. It is located near the town of Winters CA.

Don't tell me you're one of those guys that decided to make a reel one afternoon and actually did it. Love the reels. Must take alot of time and skill to turn one out. Nicely done.



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 Posted: Tue May 19th, 2009 02:18 am

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Wayne Sorce wrote: John,

I obviously had a brain fart. I meant to type 70 ft. Even Joan Wulff couldn't cast 70 yrds( 210 ft.)

Maybe not Joan but Steve Rajeff can ;)

It is very easy to make your own sinking sections of any length (or shortness) and various densities by employing the "loop method". Once you've made up a couple it will seem easy to do. Anyone who ties their own flies or does their own rod winding can do it. They are incredibly versatile and I wouldn't be without several variations on just about any fishing excursion.

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 Posted: Tue May 19th, 2009 04:01 am

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A couple of years ago, I had a chance to cast the rod which Rajef used to win the world championship.  Unbelieveable.  It was so big, and so powerful that it was virtually impossible to cast unless you were an NFL linebacker.  Starting it, and puttting line in the air was easy, but stopping the rod to propel the line was impossible.  Distance casters are a different breed.

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Does anyone know the world record casting distance ? A normal fly line is +or- 90 ft. .I can't imagine anyone casting the distance of two fly lines in length. Steve Rajeff does have the build of a linebacker whereas Joan Wulff that of a dancer and it is amazing to watch her cast. I personally rarely have to cast more that 50 ft. to get to a rise. Beyond that my accuracy and line drag are shot. Most rises are within 30 ft. in my fishing. Except when fishing for Steelhead on the Gualala . That was an exception and a challenge to get to the "Meat Bucket" where the fish were holding. Bill Shadt used to use a ladder or overturned milk crate to give him more distance in deep water and he was a rather tall fellow , at least compared to my 5'-6" frame. Wayne(( humbled and always open to learning more)

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 Posted: Tue May 19th, 2009 01:38 pm

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From Rajeff's web site, his record is 290 feet for a double handed rod, and 238 feet for a single handed rod  :shock:

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 Posted: Tue May 19th, 2009 01:42 pm

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John , Thanks for the info,Simply amazing. Wayne

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Generally speaking, muscle power is not the key to distance casting but timing is paramount. I have been at seminars given by Lefty Kreh (a nicer man never lived) and have watched in awe as he cast the entire length of a 90 foot 6 wt. line using just the 4 1/2 foot tip section of his rod and the reel was in his sport jacket pocket. In fact, in the auditorium where this was held he would slap the tip of the line against the wall on his backcast and again, slap the other wall with his forward cast. It's all in the timing and practice - practice - practice. Joan Wulff was teaching fly-casting in the thirties and winning fly-casting competitions for both distance as well as accuracy. Lee Wulff could cast a line a pretty fair distance with no rod at all... now that's timing!

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Destry: Thanks, my wife inherited her Grandfather's tackle box and the hook tin was in it.

Richard: I think I'll keep the .410 a while yet. The wolf is not quite at the door, just hanging around in the back yard. If he gets to the door I'll give you a call. Glad the boxes are useful. I've got lots more, two or three extra 410 boxes if anybody needs one.

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 Posted: Tue May 19th, 2009 03:32 pm

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Jim could you pm me, tried to pm you and it bounced back.

Thanks

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Eric: PM sent.

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 Posted: Tue May 19th, 2009 05:50 pm

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Dean,
I agree that muscle is not the key factor in casting but as you stated timing is. Joan Wulff is a perfect example Last year while visiting Joan and her husband Ted Rogowisky, Joan wanted me to try one of her favorite rods, an old Orvis 8' 2 piece 6 wt. We went out to the lawn and after watching her cast she handed me the rod.I started out well according to her but when she began giving me some suggestions on how to improve, I fell apart. I enjoy watching her demonstrate casting( she makes it look easy) but not the other way around. I'm a competent self taught caster and can use (should) some improvement but under her scrutiny my timing went to hell. Lee had his own way of casting not necessarily Joan's way, but he did what was necessary to get the fly to the fish and did it well. In the end that is what is important.

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You boys and all this fishing talk got me going so I went out to a hot farm pond for some bluegill fishing this afternoon. Jim had mentioned this place held some extra large bluegill but big ones here in Michigan and big ones to somebody from down south are usually two different things. Well Jim wasn't kidding, not big numbers but definitely big fish. You know it's a nice bluegill when you can't get your hand around it and can actually lip it to take out the hook.

Finished off the day with a dinner of smoked canvasback, wild rice, fresh asparagus, italian bread, a good sharp cheddar, and a bottle of red wine. Dessert was rhubarb crisp with icecream, pretty good stuff.

I didn't even get bit up too bad by the skeeters.

 

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Same here Destry. I spent yesterday getting the motor on my river boat so I could go out across the Tanana today and up a slough to a clear water river where I'm told sheefish and pike hang out. Unfortunately I got the call to take a friend to his chemo treatment this morning. May get out this afternoon though... we have LOTS of daylight now. Those big Michigan panfish are a real hoot on a flyrod and very tasty to boot.

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So ole' Desrty went mud puddle fishing, did your girlfriend clean your catch?

Friend Roger

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Rich; tell me about the Inconneau - Sheefish. I have long heard about them but my trips to the Arctic never put me in the right place at the right time.

 

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Roger,

Nah, I put them all back actually. We had plenty to eat, I'll keep a mess next time I have longer to fish.

Going to give the walleye a try on the big lake this Monday I think. Us and every other boat owner in lower Michigan probably.

 

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Destry;

Good old productive Lake Erie will provide you with ample Walleye, there out there if you know how to fish, ie worm harness drifted or trolled slowly just off the bottom.

You get too many I also know how to cut fish and cook them.

Rog

PS Destry; Anita is going back to Iowa, baby shower don't you know, so I'm headed to Kalkaska area next weekend (not Mem Day weekend) to get snagged in the tag alders and any other tree that gets in my line of backcast fire.

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