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Dave Fuller
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Posted: Sat May 16th, 2009 02:43 am |
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| You use a 2 wt to sneak up over a beaver dam on a calm day with a No 20 Adams... if they don't take it you shoot them with the RBL. No roll casting.
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C Roger Giles
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Posted: Sat May 16th, 2009 03:38 am |
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John Dallas wrote: If you live in Michigan, you cannot roll cast a 2 weight if someone breaks wind in St. Louis Well said John; Two weeks ago I finally caught a brown on a Sage 4wt I bought five years ago and had never even had a hit on it up until this time, and I have fished it enough I should at least had a creek chub try it out. BTW Austin, the brown took on a roll cast with the wind at my back as four wts do not roll cast very easy either. My favorite rod is an inexpensive 7 wt bamboo of English manufacture (I think is a Farlow) that I broke many years ago and glued and wrapped it back togather, and it really fishes quite well. Roger
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Dave Miles
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Posted: Sat May 16th, 2009 11:23 am |
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Richard Flanders wrote: So, I guess that makes my 1.75oz 00-wt custom flyrod on a Sage blank with a 2.2oz reel the BB gun equivalent??
Richard, I like to use those little $0.49 sponge spider flies, and fish for Bluegills on their beds. 
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Richard Flanders
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Posted: Sat May 16th, 2009 02:03 pm |
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It would be a great little bluegill rod. Too bad we don't have any up here. I have used it for up to 24" Dolly Varden.... THAT was fun....
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Posted: Sat May 16th, 2009 04:35 pm |
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Richard;
Are the Dolly Varden a good eating fish? I have read about them from time to time but to my recall never was any data on it being dinner fare.
I know Artic Char are very good eating, caught them on a Caribou hunt in Quebec and I would imagine you would have oppertunities to fish for them in your neck of the continent.
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Posted: Sat May 16th, 2009 04:56 pm |
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Fresh dollies are great but I'm told they don't freeze well. I've been told the same about char, which I think are one of the very best eating fish in existence. I've fished them on the north slope and had them on the grill 1-2 hrs out of the water and they were awesome. Best fishing of my life actually. I'd fly down the river with two notches of flaps and spot them in eddies, land and taxi up to the waters edge and fish 20' from the plane and hammer them until the hole was empty then move on. More fun than should be legal I assure you! Char are very strong fish and in fast water can take a lot of tackle from you when they roll your line around themselves 2-3 times.
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Destry Hoffard
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Posted: Sun May 17th, 2009 08:06 am |
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James,
Being an ol' dumb country boy myself, I think I like your picture best of all. I have that exact same little hook tin in my bluegill tackle box if you can believe it.
Dave,
The black ones with the white legs, that's the best color. And if you paint the heads red with a little fingernail polish, that's the ultimate.
Destry
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RICHARD L ANDERSON
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Posted: Sun May 17th, 2009 12:04 pm |
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James,
If you sell me that 410 you wonn't be poor no more . I used a cane rod for Bluegills when we had a cottage near Grayling, MI when I was just a kid.
Nice 410 box as well. I'm putting the ones I got from you to good use .
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Posted: Sun May 17th, 2009 12:34 pm |
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I went to the stream below the house just before the serious rain began yesterday afternoon with the E nymph rod. Very windy and gusty as well. I tried the "between your feet" water in the cascade below the lake, but the black flies put up to much competition. I moved to a more exposed and windier area about a mile downstream, using a 12 2x long nymph similar to the lower left in the photo.
No room for a back cast on this stream; roll the nymph into the incoming current. and mend it out of the upwelling, just like using a worm. Native and carry over brook trout usually hit just as it leaves the current, and hook themselves. It takes a few minutes to work these small holes because visibility is not far in the turbulence. The turbulence also covers up most noise and the fish's visibility of the fisherman.
Arctic Char rival cold stream brook trout in taste. I ate a lot of them frozen ( by hanging them outdoors) the winter I was in Igloolik. I think they were technically sea trout as they came from the shoal at the mouth of the Gifford River on Baffin I.
Are there sink tip or sinking lines in size 2 or 3? I remember a 6 1/2 foot Orvis two piece bamboo rod (and a fibreglas) but I think it had a dry fly action.
Best, Austin
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Posted: Sun May 17th, 2009 12:41 pm |
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| Scientific Anglers makes a sink tip in a 4 weight, but I doubt you'll find one for a 2 or 3 weight
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Posted: Sun May 17th, 2009 01:06 pm |
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A tail less version of the lower left is working pretty well this week, although the spinners coming back in daylight look more like March Browns.
The water is coming down now; until this week I was using a 4 foot sinking leader extension. It also helps roll out the leader properly with a graphite rod. The sink tip E is working alright now.
The bigger water will be wadable in a week or two; I'll go to a sinking B and small streamers until the water gets really low.
Best, Austin
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Jay Gardner
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Posted: Sun May 17th, 2009 03:07 pm |
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Austin W Hogan wrote: Are there sink tip or sinking lines in size 2 or 3? I remember a 6 1/2 foot Orvis two piece bamboo rod (and a fibreglas) but I think it had a dry fly action.
Best, Austin
Generaly speaking, 2-3 wt rods age going to be limited to dry flies, small wets, and soft hackles. They are pretty limited in their applications. There are several companies that make sinking heads for lighter fly lines. Finding a 2-3 might be tough but one made for a 4-wt with a slower rate of sink (inch/sec.) would probably work. It really depends on the rod. There are several 2-3 wts out there with enough backbone to handle a sink tip but if you have a rod that flexes down to the cork then you will probably struggle.
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Posted: Sun May 17th, 2009 03:27 pm |
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The 'one flying backwards' on Mr. Hogan's post is just the ticket on a 4 wt.
rod on Slab Creek. Located near Georgetown east of Sacramento, this litle creek is accessed by the dustiest logging trail your car's air filter ever choked on.
Once on the creek, you asend a series of granite waterfalls with pools no bigger than a bedroom and encounter dense overgrowth that restricts casting. In some spots I have to separate the rod and cast with the tip end only. You get one shot in each recess and it has to be perfect. You can put these fish down just by thinking about an improper cast.
The reward for work well done are Golden Trout. Planted by the Govt. 50 years ago, they still reside in hidden areas.Last edited on Sun May 17th, 2009 03:28 pm by Brian Stucker
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Posted: Sun May 17th, 2009 05:14 pm |
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| Brian , I think you let a cat out of the bag. My friend from El Cerrito, Ca. will I'm sure now venture to find that creek. He was just telling me how difficult it is now to find good fishing in the area. Pudah creek is nearly impossible with the releases and sad to say no more Steelhead up on the Guala. I last fished there in the mid 80's with Bill Shadt and the Steelhead were still in fair numbers. I live in the Beaverkill Valley of NY and have plenty of good trout fishing close by. I don't use bamboo rods except for a little 7.5'-5wt. for small streams but my go to rod for the Beaverkill and Willoweamoc rivers is a fiberglass "claudio " 8' 6wt. that was custom made for me. Attached is a reel I made last year for the Angler's Club of NY auction. It was fished for a season then donated to the clubs reel collection. I'v made a total of three reels ,two for myself and this one. The ACNY reel is a one of a kind. All parts were made by me including the gear /star click, and nickle silver screws, the reel is made from 6061-T6 aluminum bar stock, anodized black. Wayne Attached Image (viewed 264 times):
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Dave Fuller
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Posted: Sun May 17th, 2009 05:48 pm |
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| I caught steelhead in the Gulala as late as 1987. It is a very beautiful spot, sad to hear they are gone. One thing I like about steelhead is tying the bodacious fly patterns. Attached Image (viewed 254 times):
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Posted: Sun May 17th, 2009 06:48 pm |
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Dave,
The last time on the Gulala for me was '85 on my way to do a photo essay in the Phillipines on the gurilla fighting going on at that time. I later covered the downfall of Marcos and an essay on our military bases there .
Bill Schadt and the "regulars" on the Gulala river used size 8 and 10 fly patterns with shooting /sinking head lines. I remember it was very tiring using a 9wt. rod with10wt, shooting heads trying to get out to 70 yrds. with the double hauls necessary --but the rewards were worth the effort. A 10 lb fresh with lice Steelhead was a mighty fish to encounter. Attached is the first reel I made . The click stop /gear came out of an IBM selectric typewriter. WayneAttached Image (viewed 237 times):
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Posted: Sun May 17th, 2009 08:16 pm |
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| Beautiful reels, but 70 yds?
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Posted: Sun May 17th, 2009 08:34 pm |
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John,
I obviously had a brain fart. I meant to type 70 ft. Even Joan Wulff couldn't cast 70 yrds( 210 ft.) Thanks for catching that one. Actually many of the cast that we had to make that day to get to the "meat bucket": Bill Shadts term were 70 to 90 feet. Regards, Wayne
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Posted: Sun May 17th, 2009 10:22 pm |
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John - you got it. The Gulala is where I learned to use the shooting head. We'd use a piece of sink tip to shoot monofilament. I remember some of the older guys on the river told me "you'll know when the fish are there cause the seals will be in there chasing them up the river." So sad to lose a place like that... and it was close to wine country too!
We all need to support the CRP program or we will be losing a lot of bird hunting spots too.Last edited on Mon May 18th, 2009 02:56 am by Dave Fuller
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