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Jerry Bauman
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Posted: Tue Apr 21st, 2009 02:05 pm |
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VH 16ga. O frame, nothing changed but the addition of a recoil pad sometime in her past.
My letter from the PGCA said she was ordered Jan. 26, 09 and delivered to E.K.Tryon and Co. of Philadelphia May 6, 09. Cost, $50. I still take the old gal out every year in the fall for some grouse and woodcock. Sure hope I look and function as good at 100. 
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Jay Gardner
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Posted: Tue Apr 21st, 2009 02:09 pm |
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Beautiful gun, Jerry. Love that round pg. I hope you enjoy chasing grouse and woodcock this fall with your V and I do when I hunt them with mine.
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Weathered corn, an apple left unnoticed on the tree, the crunch of frosted stubble underfoot, wood smoke in the evening - these things remind me of the wild, fall days of boyhood...the best of those days were the Saturday's, afield with my dad.
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Posted: Tue Apr 21st, 2009 02:27 pm |
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| We sure would like to see a closeup of that PGCA letter, with your personal information hidden, of course.
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Don Kaas
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Posted: Tue Apr 21st, 2009 02:52 pm |
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Neat gun and "only" a 100 years old . Does the letter mention the checkered stock panels?Last edited on Tue Apr 21st, 2009 06:27 pm by Don Kaas
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Jerry Bauman
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Posted: Tue Apr 21st, 2009 03:38 pm |
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Here's the letter.
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Angel Cruz
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Posted: Tue Apr 21st, 2009 03:40 pm |
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Jerry
I have gun #141855 which was also ordered by E K Tryon Co in Philadelphia. It was ordered on Jan 29, 1907. Mine is also a VH 16-ga with 26 in bbls choked cyl/full on an 0 frame. It also has a round pg. The order specified the gun to be "lite". Right now the stock is being repaired by Stock Fixers. No checkered panels on mine.
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Jerry Bauman
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Posted: Tue Apr 21st, 2009 04:23 pm |
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I think the checkered panels fall under the second paragraph of the letter. Although the checkering is similar, it's not exactly the same as if it were done at the same time.
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Jay Gardner
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Posted: Tue Apr 21st, 2009 04:29 pm |
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Jerry and Angle,
How much do your guns weight?
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Posted: Tue Apr 21st, 2009 04:31 pm |
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I thought all frames were Color cased ,yours looks to been blued. 
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Angel Cruz
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Posted: Tue Apr 21st, 2009 04:39 pm |
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Jay, if I remember correctly mine weights 6lbs, 4oz.
Correction, mine weights 6lbs, 6oz on a 1 frame.
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Posted: Tue Apr 21st, 2009 04:42 pm |
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| Jay mine is 6.2
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Jay Gardner
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Posted: Tue Apr 21st, 2009 05:00 pm |
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Weights of 0-frames vs 1- frames has been discussed several times but I still find it interesting to see what 0-frames actually do weight.
Receiver appears to me to be case colored.
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Bruce Day
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Posted: Tue Apr 21st, 2009 05:10 pm |
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| Parker stock cheek indented with fine checkering. I've been told that a person can tell if stock cheeks were checkered at the PArker factory by looking for the indented area with sloped margins, which was done using a machine fixture. The checkering within the inleted area is finer than the grip checkering, at least for the mid grade guns. On the A's with fine checkering anyway, they look the same LPI to me. Attached Image (viewed 408 times):
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Dean Romig
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Posted: Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 02:26 am |
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| Here's a transition era GHE 16 ga. all original Attached Image (viewed 308 times):
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Dean Romig
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Posted: Wed Apr 22nd, 2009 02:29 am |
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| Same gun. Some of you saw it at the Southern last year and know it is un-messed-with. Attached Image (viewed 306 times):
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Bruce Day
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Posted: Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 01:02 pm |
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So Dean, so you are saying that all factory checkered stock cheeks are not inletted? I have been taught to look for inletting because Parker had the fixtures and the aftermarket gunsmith did not.
I have also been told to look for finer LPI checkering on correct Parker checkered cheeks. Your G has that.
I have two checkered cheek guns, a C and a B, and both are inletted. Perhaps the inletting is only on the higher grade guns? Interesting issue, and I have not seen written research on it.
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Posted: Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 01:44 pm |
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Bruce, I don't have a letter on this gun but I'll send Mark $40 to find out. As far as I can see, this gun is untouched. I'll let you know.
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Bruce Day
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Posted: Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 01:48 pm |
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Jay Gardner wrote: Weights of 0-frames vs 1- frames has been discussed several times but I still find it interesting to see what 0-frames actually do weight.
Jay, weren't we finding about a 3-4 oz wt difference by the time all dissimularities were accounted for? That is, barrel length, ejectors, grip, forend, butt treatment ?
We've seen some extractor, straight grip, 26" 16ga guns get very lightweight, but I always thought that the true differences were not very much, although I know that gun sellers feel they can get a premium for an 0 frame gun.
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Posted: Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 01:49 pm |
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| Dean, its an interesting question and I'm curious to find the answer. Its a fine looking G in high condition. Last edited on Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 02:00 pm by Bruce Day
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Don Kaas
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Posted: Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 03:55 pm |
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| I don't know about Dean's gun but the checkering on the initial VH gun does not appear to be unaltered factory issue to me. Note the borders (or lack of them) in the wrist checkering and the "shiners" or uncut line of points on the top of the left hand stock panel. In the absence of a letter reference, I always presume panel checking on Parkers below B grade to be non-factory. Some C grades may be exceptions...
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