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Bruce Day
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Posted: Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 04:09 pm |
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Don, I think that is accurate. I've been told that during the 50's and 60's that people thought they could or should improve the looks on many of these old guns, so they added checkering on the stock cheeks, a variety of recoil pads, including some Pachmayr white lines, Simmons vent ribs, etc. I know that the local Simmons shop did a booming business in vent ribs and ended with a barrel full of take off Parker ribs, which were sold at auction a couple years ago. The checkered stock cheeks were done by a variety of local gunsmiths, usually with varying degrees of non success. Occasionally you see one that looks very well done, but I've always been told the inletted panel is the mark of a factory job because of the fixture requirement. Further study may be warranted.
Our local Simmons shop not only could add the modern vent rib ( who wants the old fashioned low type) but they could and did provide new wood, a recoil pad instead of that hard skeleton steel plate, and a host of other horrors.
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Posted: Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 07:59 pm |
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Don,
You've seen my old standard DHE duck gun, it's got the indented panel with the finer checkering. I always assume it wasn't factory but I've never lettered the gun. Maybe I should......
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Posted: Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 08:50 pm |
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| Some side panels were indeed checkered to hide pins. Earlier Parker side panels were checkered with the "indentation. Remington era side panels had no real boarder per say.The G grade in Deans picture looks very Remington era to me.The side panel checkering on Jerrys gun looks to be neither although very well done. Last edited on Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 08:53 pm by Dave Suponski
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Angel Cruz
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Posted: Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 09:11 pm |
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Here's a VHE 28-ga on gunbroker.
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Posted: Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 09:16 pm |
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| I don't know what we can say about that one, Angel, besides the fact that it is for sale on Gunbroker and it is a complete refinish.
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Bruce Day
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Posted: Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 10:04 pm |
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So are the inletted checkered side panels indicative of work done in Meriden and the inletting tooling didn't make the move to Ilion in 1936?
Or was it a cost saving measure that started in 1934 when Remington purchased the Parker Gun? I'll check TPS for late high grades tonight to see if they have the inletted panel. I have an end production C without checkered side panels, so that doesn't help.
Added: TPS, pp. 306, 307, 322,323, 350,351. These are all 241 or 242 SNs and have inletted side panels with the beveled edges. Looks like they had the tooling fixture in Ilion.
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Posted: Thu Apr 23rd, 2009 10:50 pm |
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For heaven's sake, "inletting tooling" outline, bevel, checker, chase...
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Posted: Fri Apr 24th, 2009 02:51 am |
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After scanning both Vol. 1 and Vol. 2 of TPS I think we may find (someday) that it depended on who did the checking on a particular gun. It appears that earlier guns with checkered side panels were more often done in deeper relief and later guns in the very late twenties, through the transition period and throughout the Remington era had either shallower relief or none at all (maybe depending on grade).
I see that there are surviving records to support a research letter on the GHE and hope that if such a low grade Parker were ordered with checked side panels it would be in the order book . . . but wait, there would be no order book for 236199 
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