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John B. Raviolo
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Posted: Fri Apr 3rd, 2009 06:51 pm |
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I have a Parker double barrelled shotgun. I have scrutinized the gun, and find the following;
On the flat where the barrel tang fits I find the serial #82958. Above that number I find the number 3, below it I find what appears to be a letter "D". On the other side of the flat I find "May (7?)-Oct 1889". I have put the questionmark beside the number 7 because I am not certain it is a number. On the flat I find "Pat'd Jan18 Aug 18 1887"
On both sides of the "receiver" I find a scroll, inside of which there are the words "Parker Bros"
On the rearmost part of the trigger guard I find the serial number "82958"
On the foregrip I find "Pat'd Mar 26, 1878" on the releasing mechanism, and on the side of the foregrip adjoining the barrels I find the serial number, "82958".
The gun camee in a leather case, but it is not what I would call a presentation case, it is like a saddle scabbard, like might have been used to take the gun into the field for a hunt. The leather is almost ready to turn into powder, most of the buckles and straps are gone, and the color comes off on everything it touches, but I hope to look that good when I am it's age!!
There are no cracks or damaged areas on the stock or the foregrip, the engraving, which shows a pointing dog , is visible to a careful examination. The barrels look like the bluing is very very thin, I believe it to be in good original condition. I know very little about assessing condition of firearms.
I live in Cave Junction, Oregon, and will need to find an appraiser capable of doing justice to this fine old gun, so any suggestions will be appreciated. Any observations about the gun, including your perceptions of its value, will also be appreciated. It is NOT FOR SALE, I used to live in Seattle, and I used to go to Eddie Bauer's and look at the wonderful old Parker Brothers shotguns, and dream of the day I might own one, now I do, and I will not let it go for any sum of money.
One last thought, I don't know correct nomenclature for the parts of this gun, but I know what I don't know, and take no insult at being corrected or rightly advised.
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Posted: Fri Apr 3rd, 2009 06:58 pm |
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| John,Some pictures would be great help in assisting you with the value of your Parker.
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Chuck Bishop
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Posted: Fri Apr 3rd, 2009 07:16 pm |
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John,
From your information, you have a grade 3 DH hammerless shotgun made late 1894 or early 1895. It should be a 10 guage with 28" barrels measured from the breach end to the muzzle end and have a capped pistol grip stock. It may or may not have damascus steel barrels. The rib inscription should either say damascus or titanic steel. As Dave said, we need detailed closeup pictures if possible. Congratulations on your new old Parker. Enjoy!
Last edited on Fri Apr 3rd, 2009 07:24 pm by Chuck Bishop
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Posted: Fri Apr 3rd, 2009 07:45 pm |
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| That would be a very early Titanic gun Chuck...interesting
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Posted: Fri Apr 3rd, 2009 08:45 pm |
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A fluid steel 10 gauge with factory 28 inch barrels? That is an unusual gun for sure.
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John B. Raviolo
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Posted: Fri Apr 3rd, 2009 09:00 pm |
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I have a digital photo of the shotgun, but I can't send it throough this site, as the numbr of bytes is too great. If I had e-mail addresses for anyone wanting to see my pictures, I will e-mail pictures. The pictures may not be the greatest, tell me what detail you want and I will try to get it for you.
Thanks for the response, it is great fun to be looking into the history of the shotgun, I got it from my Father In Law, who got it just before dirt was invented. It has been in the family from the beginning, I believe.
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Posted: Fri Apr 3rd, 2009 09:03 pm |
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Send them to me and I'll post them for you.
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Posted: Fri Apr 3rd, 2009 09:22 pm |
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Hop on the road and take a scenic drive up around Crater Lake National Park and on up through the Newberry National Volcanic Monument to Bend. Contact Keith Kearcher and have him evaluate the gun.
http://members.toast.net/keithkearcher/
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Posted: Fri Apr 3rd, 2009 09:27 pm |
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Pics for John:
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Posted: Fri Apr 3rd, 2009 09:58 pm |
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| John,What is the inscription on the top rib between the barrels?
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Posted: Fri Apr 3rd, 2009 10:00 pm |
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| Looks like an absolutely original gun. Better pictures, closer up, of the various parts of the gun would be helpful. A 28" ten gauge is a very interesting variation. However, I don't see a post that would suggest that it is a fluid steel gun. Last edited on Fri Apr 3rd, 2009 10:17 pm by Bill Murphy
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John B. Raviolo
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Posted: Fri Apr 3rd, 2009 10:04 pm |
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It says "Parker Brothers Makers Meriden Conn Damascus"
Thanks for your reply, and for your interest in helping me to learn as much as I can about this superb piece of art.
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John B. Raviolo
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Posted: Fri Apr 3rd, 2009 10:07 pm |
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I don't have a macro lens for my camera, but I will try the lens that is the closest I can get to that, and see what happens. Any particular areas of interest? If I have to, I will get a macro lens, but it will be a short wait for that to happen, I will have to drive into Grants Pass, (county seat) to shop for that.
Thanks for your response, and for your help.
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Posted: Fri Apr 3rd, 2009 10:14 pm |
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| John,Turn the barrels over and on the rear barrel lug(lug closest to where the shells are inserted) there will be a number.What is it?
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John B. Raviolo
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Posted: Fri Apr 3rd, 2009 10:36 pm |
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| The numbers you asked for are 958, the last three digits of the serial number.
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Posted: Fri Apr 3rd, 2009 11:32 pm |
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| Ok,Were getting closer..ninety degrees from that should be a single digit ie: 1,2,or 3
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Posted: Sat Apr 4th, 2009 12:09 am |
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| or possibly 1 1/2
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Posted: Sat Apr 4th, 2009 12:35 am |
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| Travis,I think the gun is too early for a 1 1/2 frame.
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John B. Raviolo
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Posted: Sat Apr 4th, 2009 01:06 am |
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Dave Suponski;
The number you asked for is a 3.
I e-mailed a number of close-up photos to Destry Hoffard, hoping he would post them here. I need to ask him how he does that, when I tried I got a window that said it was too big to go.
Thanks yet again for your help, and interest.
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Posted: Sat Apr 4th, 2009 01:15 am |
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| John, Is there a tag attached to this gun ? Looks to be in your picture it may be of some help.
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