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Destry Hoffard
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Posted: Thu Mar 12th, 2009 12:47 am |
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Paul,
That's been mentioned before in this thread, but there are uncut guns out there that have the matting running all the way to the end. The only real way to know is a letter unless it's poorly done work.
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paul harm
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Posted: Thu Mar 12th, 2009 04:00 pm |
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| I agree, but not guns where the matting stops before the end of the gun. It's two different things. Paul
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Posted: Thu Mar 12th, 2009 08:28 pm |
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I own a cut barrel gun that has the blank space in the end of the matting.
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E Robert Fabian
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Posted: Thu Mar 12th, 2009 08:44 pm |
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| I watch one of our well known smithy's add a ribbon to a barrel end on a gun not to long ago, it came out very well and I don't think most buyers would notice it. Last edited on Thu Mar 12th, 2009 09:36 pm by E Robert Fabian
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Dave Tercek
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Posted: Thu Mar 12th, 2009 08:48 pm |
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I've looked at two guns that had cut barrels with the blank space at the end of the matting. Close examination showed the metal in front of the perpendiculer line to be lower than the matting ridges. In order to "fake it" properly the metal at the rib end would have to be tig welded up, then reworked. Has anyone here done this or know of it being done?
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bobpeters
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Posted: Fri Mar 13th, 2009 01:09 am |
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Dave,
I have a 20ga VHE 30" with the matting running to the end of the barrels. Dave Miles saw this gun before I had the parker letter, the question was , had the barrels been cut? The parker letter stated that the barrels were 30"full/full, Larry DelGrego replaced a cocking spring, his take was that this is as it left the factory.
As Dave said it would not be the first gun that had the matting that went the full length of the barrel.
Don't know if this helps???
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Posted: Fri Mar 13th, 2009 01:12 am |
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Not necessarily; a good metal worker can tap the rib down a little before recutting it.
With respect to Fabian's question, early 10 bores ran .780 to .810 or .820; as 12 bores ran .740 to .760.
Parker didn't throw away started barrels if it could be avoided, and there was no proof law to limit bore diameter.
Many years ago I was offered a very nice ten gauge lifter; the seller insisted that it was an eight guage because of its bore diameter, and asked the premium 8 gauge price for it. It was indeed chambered 10 ga. and I turned it down. I don't know if the eventual buyer paid the premium price or not.
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Posted: Fri Mar 13th, 2009 10:58 am |
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| Thanks Austin
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Posted: Wed Apr 1st, 2009 06:54 pm |
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| Linda's cut off DHE has touching barrels at the muzzle. It was a 30" gun shortened to 26" as far as I know. The PGCA letter is about the only sure way to tell whether this 28 1/2" gun is original. Odd how the no return policy turned into a return policy. The "buyer" apparently is no shrinking violet. Who are the two other guys who bid the gun into the stratosphere? By the way, Linda's DHE was originally purchased from a famous Texas Parker dealer who advertised it as an original skeet gun and refused to give a refund when confronted. I was not the purchaser, but he is a good friend. The correspondence is very interesting. It would be worth more than the gun to the seller. Last edited on Wed Apr 1st, 2009 07:13 pm by Bill Murphy
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DARYL CORONA
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Posted: Fri Apr 3rd, 2009 01:13 am |
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My 28 ga VH letters properly but the matting also extends to the end of the rib. It's reassuring to hear of others with the full length matting but as I come to find out a Parker can have many variations and still be original. I also have a DHE 12 that the serialization book lists as a 30" gun but the barrels are 28", touch at the muzzles and the matting ends properly. Chokes are .025 and .034 and are 3.75" long. Physical evidence trumps serialization every time.
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