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Bill Murphy
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 02:56 pm |
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| Destry, I can only remember two real knock down drag out bar fights where I was a willing participant. Both times, I used maple bar stools, which work well from either end. Both times I was, in my opinion at least, the victor. However, one time I had to make a hasty exit because my friend and I were hopelessly outnumbered and in an unfamiliar neighborhood of Northwest D.C.
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 05:19 pm |
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Bar stools are good but don't handle as quick and fast as a maple shafted que. Once back in Southern Illinois I saw a friend's woman do some major damage on a few boys by throwing pool balls at them during a fight that my buddy started over a pool game. Unfortunately she also broke out the front window of the tavern and got us all banned for life. That was one of the worst I was ever in, I had knots and contusions in more places than I knew I had places to have them. There's still a little scar right on the point of the top of my head where another "gentleman" tapped me with a Pabst Blue Ribbon longneck. The phrase "seeing stars" isn't just a phrase when that happens.
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C Roger Giles
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 06:12 pm |
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Destry;
The PBR remark gives you good stead in the good old boys redneck bar room fighting nonsociety.
I always liked to get a lick in on the opponets chinbone, reduces their stature quickly.
The worst lick I ever took in one of those knuckle drills was from a guy that had one of his hands missing and he stuck that stub arm end very forcefully right in one eyes and I had vision problems for a week but no black and blue. BTW I did not know he had a hand missing until it was too late.
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PS I wonder if old Nash Buckingham was ever in one of these hand to hand sporting events.
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Brad Hunt
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 06:39 pm |
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| Roger Giles: Wasn't TNB a boxer? Unusual I would think to never be in a fight and go right to the ring without at least a taste of the real thing.
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Destry Hoffard
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 06:48 pm |
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Yeah, he was a boxer most definitely, and a boxing referee in later years as well I believe. I'm sure he had his share of scrapes over the years.
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Don Kaas
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 06:54 pm |
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| NB was an amateur boxer, gymnast, semi-pro baseball player and an award winning football player at U of T- a true all around athlete. Given Nash's notoriously modest consumption of alcohol, social status and Harvard background, I don't see him in many Victorian era bar fights, Besides, at heart he was a story teller and if he had a story about a youthful dust up we are likely to have read about it.
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 07:00 pm |
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I'd swear there's a mention of his giving somebody a clout on the chin in one of the stories somewhere. I dunno....
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Don Kaas
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 07:13 pm |
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| If Nash wanted someone dealt with he gave the contract to "Two Cats Benny"...
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Francis Morin
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 07:18 pm |
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Dave- what does PM mean- Prime Minister? I have heard of the famed British Churchill XXV doubles-was Sir Winston any relation to the Churchill gunmakers?
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Francis Morin
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| Sorry there Bill- if I be the "Gent in Question" the only google I am aware of comes from my childhood in the Queen City- There was an Irish song "Barney Google and his Goo-goo-googlin' eyes, if memory serves (as it most usually does) My GrandFather's favorite song was "Casey Would Waltz With The Strawberry Blonde" always wondered if that was the self-samed Casey of the famed Muddville Nine? Maybe you could assist? And I am Green Catholic Irish-much like the character portrayed by Brad Pitt in the movie "The Devil's Own"- love the part where he "kneecaps" one of Mr. Burke's hoods with (I believe-is a Walther PP or PPK .380) in the office- my Sicilian pals are no slouches at revenge- but the Irish- and we have such a poetic way of expressin' it, now donna we?? Erin Go Braugh-- Last edited on Sun May 18th, 2008 08:14 pm by Francis Morin
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Francis Morin
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 08:04 pm |
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| So Mr. K- how do you get a picture of a bottle label up and running on this most sanctified web-site-? I have tried to "down load is it" a foto into the Avatar- might as well try to sell a case of condoms to a convent- There is a great liquor store I frequent- Zimmerman's- Midwest area- They have Johnny Walker Blue Label- 60 year old single malt at aprox $250/fifth-Bushmill's Black at aprox $47/fifth- and I have asked them for years about J.T.S. Brown- they tell me- Not Available- May I ask where you can get it- I loved that movie- shot a lot of straight pool in past years- loved Jackie Gleason's role as Rudolph Walderone- and he made all his shots- Jackie was a great stick man- I only play 9 ball and straight pool for $- only game for serious money (is there any other kind??) I will play is 7 card stud- when we were out in Missoula MT- back in the late l980-early l990's for Cast and Blast in Oct- we played at the Oxford and The Cattleman's Club in downtown Missoula- Anyway, I await your details re: the hard to find J.T.S. Brown- and I drink my whiskey on the rocks sir- water is for shaving or flower beds-- Last edited on Sat May 17th, 2008 02:43 pm by Francis Morin
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Don Kaas
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 08:26 pm |
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| Your highly catholic tastes in whiskey seem only exceeded by your apparent zest for consuming it. With the host of whiskies available who call the Republic their home, it is curious a self professed Catholic prefers the Orangeman's Bushmills. Perhaps, it is the francophonic spelling of your surname that has your tasting faculties confused. I don't know about anyone else but I can't get the image of a slightly besotted latter day Barry Fitzgerald (think Michaleen Flynn in "The Quiet Man" but in real life Barry was a Protestant...) at the key board somewhere in Sterling Heights out of my head... Last edited on Wed May 14th, 2008 08:30 pm by Don Kaas
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 08:28 pm |
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| Sorry for the pause there Don- had to go to my Hemingway Library wing-pull some research- Firstly- re: Carole Lombard- I loved that era- believe she ordered a DHE 28 gauge as a gift for Gable (most likely from Kerr's Sport Shop (Shoppe?)- but the rumor was-on her first date with ol' Billy Clark G. after the "wine and dine" they went back to her place for a "nightcap" and old Clark- "God's Gift To Women??" said- "Hey, why do you go upstairs, get undressed and get into bed Baby?" and she replied- "And why don't you just go and shit in your hat Bud"-Now Cooper- yes Gary starred in two of the Hollywood versions of two of Hemingway's best novels "A Farewell To Arms" and "For Whom The Bell Tolls" the second movie part was at Hemingway's insistence- Cooper and rancher Bud Purdy (not spelled like the London Best- but Purdy) were constant hunting pals in Idaho-Hemingway referred to pal Cooper "Coops" as being the "real deal"- high praise indeed- that and the fotos on pages of ils. in the center of the 1955 book "Papa Hemingway" show this- written by Hemingway's pal A.E. Hotchner- those of you who live in the "Nutmegger State" of CT may know "Hotch" as the initial partner with actor Paul Newman in the food products-the profits from which have gone to help needy and dis-advantaged kids for years- I have Buckingham section, ditto Hemingway, and then Gene Hill and Corey Ford in my library- learned a long time ago that books are like money-best never loaned out- Last edited on Mon May 19th, 2008 04:42 pm by Francis Morin
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 08:57 pm |
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Poor Brad, this has gotten a long way from his question about the Parker shotgun Nash said he was using before he got his first Super-Fox. From careful reading there seems to have been at least two Super-Foxs used by Nash before Ad Roll ordered him the special gun made up by Burt Becker which came to known as BoWhoop.
When those murdering Irish Catholic bastards killed Lord Louis, I dumped out my jug of Tullamore Dew and haven't had a drop of Irish since!! God Save the Queen!!!
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 11:29 pm |
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| Who could not empathize with a Battenberg rendered a cuckold by J. Nehru complete with jacket...
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Posted: Wed May 14th, 2008 11:49 pm |
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| Dear Don- thanks- what is a TPS? I am not a Parker "Collector" (although with Destry Hoffard's kind help- I am evaluating a 1928 VH 12 1 & 1/2 frame 30 in F and F for a "using gun" nor am I here to sell mine-even if it were against the "Rocks and Shoals" rules and regs. as posted. I am a history buff- and any company established in 1865 and operating until l934 under its own family ownership- then under the aegis of Remington UMC until 1940-ish- certainly qualifies for a student of history- Industrial Age -etc. Let's not forget that regardless of our age (67) background, typing skills or lack thereof- we are all gentlemen rankers here-not many laid off stell mill workers (even doing rounds of Crown with HRC in your home State) deal in such scarce and pricey "treasures" as do we-so I assume that as the late Paul A. Curtis wrote in "Guns and Gunning" Penna 1934- Chapter "The Upland Shotgun" page 151- "The double is the throughbred- the gentleman's gun-and in the high strata of society-etc- and to paraphrase from another great writer- the late Robert Chester Ruark in a story about quail hunting in the Deep South- "It takes a gentleman to approach a gentleman"- so I had no way of knowing that you and others knew about the Carole Lombard/William Clark Gable DHE 28 gauge- or Gary Cooper using a Parker and hunting and shooting with "Don Ernesto" Ditto the J.T.S. Brown query- I have both an inquitisitive and highly retentive mind- it might serve you and Bros. Murphy and Cooper to consider I am a "new guy here" both to the internet (thank you Mr. Al Gore) and to this website- I haven't yet decided to "expend any funds" for memberships or to attend events- (although other members here have welcomed my attendance) and I will hold off on those financial decisions (as I will on the VH 12 bore) and "see what happens" If the Board or Moderators or what I call the PTB here tell me I am "out of line" by my being erudite or some of the other unkind and to my mind, downright ungentlemanly terms directed towards me by some of the aforementioned gentlemen- I'll still exist- as will the 2 12 bore AAHE Parkers my GrandFather was gracious to entrust to me do- with or without the PGCA-and so will this most August Association- a manwould have to own an ego like that possessed by Slick Willie Clinton to think that ANY organization could not exist without his membership- no matter at what level that membership may be- I leave- and the PGCA goes on- and Parkers will always be the finest shotgun ever produced in America until the end of time-
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Posted: Thu May 15th, 2008 12:04 am |
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| Don I drink Bushmill's because I can find it locally- have to go big city to buy Tullamore dew-I know what you mean about the "bastardized surname" as many Irish dropped the O= from O'Mara to Mara- and many Polish dropped the ski from whateverski- the folks that adopted my late Father Paul from an orphanage in Ohio in 1920's- didn't like his Slavic surname- Murinski- so they changed it to Murin. My baby sister did the research-also located his one living sister in Fl before my Father passed in 1986- I'm about a much of a Frenchman as the Pope is a Rabbi-but I can see how you might make that inference- a more "francopholic" spin on Morin might be either Moran or Morren- the je ne sans quoi of it all- Last edited on Sun May 18th, 2008 04:18 am by Francis Morin
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Posted: Thu May 15th, 2008 01:07 am |
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Kids can be so cruel to the new ones who want to join the group. It's mostly an anthropological imperative and in this case, only a wee bit personal. (your posting style, syntax, punctuation and forced "erudition" are extremely annoying to many here  much worse your posts are very hard to read...being annoying is a mere crime, being so turgid as to be incomprehensible is, well, a sin...) There, I said it. We are a lively sometimes prickly group here talking about our old Parkers but tolerance is a fragile membrane...just check the exit polls in West "by God" Virginia should you doubt this constant.
Google "Morin" and see what you get...French names... If you post photos of your "two inherited AAHEs" I am certain the kids will stop tripping you in the lunch line as most of them have never even seen a AAHE...
Speaking of the Green, I am going back to watching the Celtics lose their first home game in the playoffs... Last edited on Thu May 15th, 2008 01:24 am by Don Kaas
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Posted: Thu May 15th, 2008 01:55 am |
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Carol Lombard once said in reference to the King of Hollywood ie Gable, if he had any less he would be the Queen of Hollywood.
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Posted: Thu May 15th, 2008 12:39 pm |
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| Roger, I have a question. I also solicit our friend Mr. Kaas's answer after yours. My question is "Is your comment somehow related to our relationship with the new poster?". We Irish are usually accused of such deficiencies. I would suggest that you hide your relationship with the respected gunmaker's progeny whose name begins with the letter "O", lest the new poster relate his knowledge, carnal or otherwise, with that family. By the way, congratulations to Don for your to the point post.
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