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Phil Murphy
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Posted: Tue Apr 5th, 2005 12:34 am |
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I hunted wild boar in the Ogeechee swamp near Savanna Georgia for years. The old timers tried to build rice plantations by cutting channels through the mangrove swamp. They were very fond of russian and prussian boar, and imported many that they set free to kill the snakes and alligators. The rice plantations never quite worked as planned. But, the boar loved the place. Today all that is left is swamp and big boars, gators and snakes.
We hunted them with dogs and pistols. The pistols were required because carrying a rifle or shotgun through the swamp was foolish. I remember a lawyer from D.C. that tried it, and the result was not pretty. He was as close to a heart attack as any man I've ever seen. The dogs stood on the bow of the flat boats that we patrolled the channels in. When the dogs bayed, we put to shore and a merry chase was on.
I don't know if you've ever run through a swamp grass and mangrove swamp. The grass schredded you like a razor. The dogs were baying like maniacs on the trail of the boar, and the trick was to keep up with them, so that they were not killed. Nice work if you can get it. Finally the dogs trapped the boar and you arrived, bloody and gasping for air. Now, all you had to do is pull some dogs off and shoot the the boar dead with one shot from your pistol. I soon learned that the .44 mag is not as mighty as Clint would have us believe. When I shot a boar from three feet through the shoulder, killing it, and found the bullet under the skin on the opposite side, I decided that more fire power was in order. To this day I pay homage to the .454 Casull.
One day I'll tell you about the boar that ran be over and nearly drowned my dog.
Phil Murphy
Last edited on Tue Apr 5th, 2005 12:39 am by Phil Murphy
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Bruce Day
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Posted: Tue Apr 5th, 2005 02:41 pm |
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Its true about handguns. A .357 mag with max loads is about enough for me. I've shot a 44 mag----once was enough. Our guide in Oklahoma said he had a party of handgun hunters in the week before. 4 hogs killed and 5 left wounded and not recovered. Not good. We had one wounded and missing out of 7 killed. Tracking a wounded big pig through thick brush at night is uncomfortable and can be dangerous.
Its about all I can do with a handgun to hit a big stump at 75 yards, never mind about bullet placement on the stump. With a rifle I can hit a saucer size target shooting offhand at 75 yards, so big difference.
Now Destry, there was one middle aged gal at the cafe who was missing her teeth but seemed to like us. We could put you on a stand and drive hogs past you. Lots of fried food...fried catfish, fired okra, french fries, fried hushpuppies, BBQ, and peach cobbler. A fellow like you likes the big bores and could handle a 45-70 just fine for those big ones. Any of the above of interest?
We did consume the better part of a case of beer( not even Pearl Beer) while cleaning the hogs. Then gin rummy later.
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Fred Preston
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Posted: Tue Apr 5th, 2005 05:43 pm |
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Destry Hoffard
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Posted: Tue Apr 5th, 2005 06:16 pm |
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I can handle a big bore rifle just fine, I've got a Remington rolling block 7 mm that would be good hog medicine.
I draw the line on no teeth though, I prefer my girls with their pearly whites intact.
I just had a gal that works at my local gas station do her damndest to get my number. But when she was talking the whistle of her false teeth was a little much even for a salwart soul such as myself.
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Fred Preston
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Posted: Tue Apr 5th, 2005 08:22 pm |
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| Destry, If youv'e missed the erotic appeal of no teeth, you still have life ahead of you.
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Bill Murphy
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Posted: Tue Apr 5th, 2005 10:02 pm |
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| He said he prefers the teeth be intact, he didn't say he had ever experienced one with teeth intact.
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Posted: Wed Apr 6th, 2005 02:55 am |
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Looks like Destry is getting a little on the fussy side with his choise of toothy women now that he has established himself as a bona fide yarn spinner in the DGJ.It pleases me that he has started to elevate his basic requirements of the fairer sex.
I am hoping at least one axe handle narrower and with some teeth and no facial hair.
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Posted: Wed Apr 6th, 2005 01:14 pm |
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I must agree with Fred on the wonders of a woman who lacks the capability to chew her own food, at least with the equipment she was born with.
I have a 416 Taylor I'm working up loads for to go to Africa with. A hog test might be in order. I killed a deer with a 44 mag once. A shot to the neck still required a follow up even though the deer dropped in its tracks.
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Bruce Day
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Posted: Wed Apr 6th, 2005 02:05 pm |
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Over the next year if there is enough interest, we could plan a hog hunting escapade. There are no license fees in Oklahoma and I pay the guide $250 for the weekend, free cabin, no electricity, outhouse only. Hogs, cougars, bobcats, turkey and deer in the woods. Western diamondbacks, prairie rattlers, copperheads, cottonmouths, ticks, chiggars, fried food and women with no teeth. It just doesn't get any better than that.
Feb, Mar and early April are the months. In the Red River thickets between Texas and OK.
A Parker 12 ga with slugs would do it, but as Ruark said "use enough gun". Destry might want to be caught on the ground with a 450 pounder but not me and our guide has had 250 stitches, one broken arm and two broken ribs to show for it. I pumped 3 heart and lung shots from a 30-30 into a 225 lb hog last year and he was still coming, so you need some knock down power, or a head shot. Iwas equiped with more firepower this year, but not quite on the scale of my old B-52 days.
Tell me if you are interested. Its not a gentleman's quail hunt and not much room for Purdeys and high grade Parkers.
Bruce
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Posted: Thu Apr 7th, 2005 02:11 pm |
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Austin: Spring Parker Pages arrived yesterday (4/6) in southern Minnesota, 55350, and in perfect condition as well. Thanks to all involved, it's a great read.
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Posted: Thu Apr 7th, 2005 02:58 pm |
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Bruce Day wrote:
A Parker 12 ga with slugs would do it, but as Ruark said "use enough gun". Destry might want to be caught on the ground with a 450 pounder but not me and our guide has had 250 stitches, one broken arm and two broken ribs to show for it. I pumped 3 heart and lung shots from a 30-30 into a 225 lb hog last year and he was still coming, so you need some knock down power, or a head shot. Iwas equiped with more firepower this year, but not quite on the scale of my old B-52 days.
Bruce:
Sounds like a job for one of the vintage British double rifles in the classic BP calibers: .450-500 Jeffries BPE or .505 Gibbs - huge 395-500gr. slugs, subsonic velocity, hit like a cinder block, esp. under 50 yds. Always wanted one but Vs thru As got in the way every time! KBM
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Posted: Thu Apr 7th, 2005 03:14 pm |
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| Well Bwana Kevin, come on out and I'll be your gun bearer...for a six pack of Pearl of course. Carhart coveralls are more safari gear out here than shorts and a pith helmet....but you could show up in full safari gear at the Fish House restaurant with Destry in tow. Now that would be a hoot!
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Destry Hoffard
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Posted: Thu Apr 7th, 2005 04:43 pm |
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I draw the line on playing gun bearer, I like Kevin and all but he can carry his own piece.
I don't have Carhartt coverall but I've got my old faithful bibs so I'm all set.
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Posted: Thu Apr 7th, 2005 05:47 pm |
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Bruce -
I don't think you've been to a Vintagers event yet in Millbrook, NY in Sept. where many of us congregate to staff the PGCA display booth and exhibit, but up there 2 years ago I broke ground in the Edwardian attire theme by changing from breeks to "Empire Builders" (Ghurkha shorts in OD like the Brits used to wear in Arfica and India, etc.). The 3/4 - length wool breeks were just too damned hot and it is almost impossible to find light cotton versions. I kept my other Victorian-era wardrobe theme (dress shirt & necktie, waistcoat or shooting vest, topped off my sun helmet). It sure was a lot more comfortable to wear and evidently it looked OK - at least Ray Poudrier didn't take me behing the clay target shed for a lecture on proper attire. Unless chilly or nasty weather comes, it will be my outfit of choice for the upcoming SxS in Sanford at the end of the month.
Destry - What I want to find is that lightweight cotton-canvas shooting vest that Robert Redford wore in "Out of Africa" - the one with the 4 or 5 cartridge loops above the breast pocket. It looked for all the world like a Duxbak product, except it had only the breast pocket and loops - no baggy pouch pockets or spandex shell loops around the middle. Classy and it put those extra solid jackets within easy reach in case you had to put two more into him after the first two got his attention and made him think.
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Posted: Thu Apr 7th, 2005 06:42 pm |
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| Kevin, if you covet Redford's safari jacket, you only need wait for the Littlejohn's Auction Service sale of the Redford estate. It worked for you before, it could work again.
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Posted: Thu Apr 7th, 2005 07:17 pm |
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Bill Murphy wrote: Kevin, if you covet Redford's safari jacket, you only need wait for the Littlejohn's Auction Service sale of the Redford estate. It worked for you before, it could work again.
Kevin you have the right idea about light weight vests. I have had my eye open for Redford's Out of Africa style vest for quite a while and nothing seems to be avaible. I think it would be the cats meow for squirrel hunting in the early fall. All vests that are on the market today just have too many bells, whistles, and useless pockets. Also I always have trouble with size ie not big enough and not left handed. Just how long must us oversized hippos have to put up with outdoor clothing apperal producers and their lack of consideration for our size group. There is a large population of us biggies avaible to market their wares to. Staffords in Ga. comes close but no ciger there either.
My suggestion is someone in the Parker or double gun circle with the right hook up might call Hollywood or Redford and ask about the African vest source.
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Posted: Thu Apr 7th, 2005 09:14 pm |
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| Spring PP arrived in SoCal at 91030 on 4/5/05
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Posted: Thu Apr 7th, 2005 09:17 pm |
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Roger,
They don't have a vest like Ol' Robert but I get quite a few large size pieces of sporting apparel from:
http://www.bigcamo.com/
I just bought a new set of rain gear from them last year that I'm very pleased with.
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Posted: Fri Apr 8th, 2005 12:19 am |
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I'll do battel with any hog armed with the .416 Taylor. A 400gr Swift A Frame should make bacon in short order.
I'll carry extra ammo in one of those handy slip on cartridge carriers that go on the stock. If I can't stop a Buff with three of the Swifts thats what I have a PH for!!
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Posted: Fri Apr 8th, 2005 06:34 pm |
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| Spring PP arrived in N. E. Ohio (44064) yesterday. What a relief to finally find out what is going on with Destry's butt! Jack
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