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john pulis
12-17-2019, 08:27 AM
Does anyone know where there may be images of Bernard "ribbon" pattern barrels?

Dean Romig
12-17-2019, 08:59 AM
I have not seen such a description listed in the pattern-welded tube sample boards. There are, I believe, three different Bernard patternd but I don’t recall that “ Bernard Ribbon” is one of them.

Drew will likely join us and define it.



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Drew Hause
12-17-2019, 12:18 PM
"Bernard ribbon" or "Rubans Royal" (by Manufacture Liegeoise) is an interesting pattern and found on an occasional 1890s L.C. Smith Quality No. 1 hammerless and rarely on a F grade hammergun.

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1373/6511424/17116222/401151861.jpg

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1373/6511424/17116222/401151860.jpg

To my knowledge, none of the barrels retain a maker's mark so we have no clue as to the manufacturer. "Rough forged tubes" were wired together in pairs, and about 50 pairs shipped to the U.S. in a barrel. We also don't know if the pattern was a surprise to Hunter Arms after finishing, as the pattern of the "rough forged tubes" if very hard to discern. Smith No. 1 guns mostly used "Laminated Steel" 1890-1898; "Bernard Ribbon" is a Twist variant.

This is part of a salesman's sample display from Joseph Juleinond, and the tube on right looks to be Bernard Ribbon - unfortunately the tubes are not labeled :(

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1373/6511424/19006385/411660174.jpg

This is the Twist section from Ken Waite's Manufacture Liegeoise D'Armes A Feu sample display, and No. 5 is "Rubans (Ribbons) Royal" but the same stuff

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1373/6511424/19006385/338414108.jpg

More examples here
http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/19006385

BTW: about everyone in Liege made some kind of "Bernard" pattern; Ferdinand Drissen listed Bernard Ribbon and 5 damascus variants

http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1373/6511424/19006385/303191272.jpg

More on Bernard patterns here
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fMs-Mn60ei9QsRcHT5Urm_eHobzJnaDKZiP3FP0fXb0/edit

Why the interest John?

Drew Hause
12-17-2019, 01:14 PM
Recent thread on the LCSCA Forum
https://members.boardhost.com/lcsmith/msg/1575788883.html

john pulis
12-17-2019, 03:45 PM
Drew,

Many thanks.

John