Hunting Dogs and Dunkle

[Bill Bolyard]

While hunting in Kansas with John, I had the pleasure to discuss with him different philosophy' on raising and training Bird dog's. As a Kid we always kept the dogs in a kennel with the Idea that making a house dog out of them would ruin there hunting ability. My dogs now, like John's are house dogs and from my own experience are better behaved in the field and hunt for me. Next year I look forward to hunting John's Brittany's and my Llewellins together.

The Question.

How many of you kennel your dogs and how many are house dogs? Do not forget to post a picture!

Bill

[Rich Anderson]

I'd love to post pictures but alas no camera...perhaps Santa will bring one:rolleyes:

Willie,Tara, Daisy & Gunner are all house dogs. Daisy and Gunner perform excellent field work while Tara and Willie offer their unwavering love and affection as do Gunner and Crazy Daisy. You can't sit on the couch or in a chair without at least one of the dogs with you:)

[Trigg Davis]

My dogs are house dogs; I believe it produces the best results. I am not experienced posting pictures, my dog Shine is shown in photo Fridays with a post Bob Brown did and to which I responded today.

Trigg

[Jack Cronkhite]

House dogs
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[Trigg Davis]

Jack,

The pictures on the left look like two differnet dogs to me. Is that a Golden Retriever in the upper left? If it is I did not know you had one.

Trigg

[Jack Cronkhite]

Good eye Trigg The top is a Golden "Morgan" and the bottom is labXhusky "Charlie" Before we adopted "Charlie" I had spent the better part of two seasons dogless. "Morgan" is the neighbors pet. Never been in the field in her life. I thought I would ask if "Morgan" could have some time doing what she was bred for. They agreed and "Morgan" found me a few roosters on 3 or 4 trips out. She is pretty much a natural. Just another example of a pet being up to the job. I was a bit concerned about firing the shotgun, since she was not at all introduced to it. I didn't want her to be gun shy, so the intent was to let her wander out a ways and fire in the opposite direction and repeat a couple times. Trouble was, she got onto a bird right away and flushed two nice roosters, so it was an immediate trial by fire. Didn't phase her a bit. She went on to find more, so she was invited a few times. The neighbor has a new found taste for wild pheasant.
Here is a shot of "Rio" who is an outdoor farm dog - a pet, but not a house dog. "Rio" is amazing and leaves the yard to hunt with anybody that even remotely looks like they might be hunting. Another natural hunter with no training but does it all and very well.

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[Trigg Davis]

Jack,

Thanks I always enjoy your dog pictures. I am curious about Goldens and hunting because my wife may decide we should get one when our Newfuondland who will be 10 in January is overtqken by age. For now he is doing well. I also have the good fortune to have a contact with a fine field trial Golden breder so who kows maybe the day will come when a Golden will be added to our family.


Trigg

[Jack Cronkhite]

A Golden is a lovely dog. For my hunting, there are lots of burrs in the habitat. I had to spend a long time on "Morgan" to be able to send her home burrless. There are products to apply before the hunt (horse mane detangler) that makes getting burrs out an easy process. I'd have some on hand if I had a Golden for the hunting I do.

Cheers,
Jack

[Mark Dube]

We have 2 English Springers, Kira 4 yrs & apparently named for the yellow power ranger (we tried another name, but the kids refused to use it). Rigby, 8 months & named for a recent rifle acquisition. These house dogs think they are "lap dogs", "gaurd dogs" and "bird dogs", sadly their timing isnt always appropriate.

[Angel Cruz]

My boy Nash is a house dog and hopefully by next season he'll be in the making of a bird dog.

Angel

[Francis Morin]

[QUOTE=Jack Cronkhite;9882]Good eye Trigg The top is a Golden "Morgan" and the bottom is labXhusky "Charlie" Before we adopted "Charlie" I had spent the better part of two seasons dogless. "Morgan" is the neighbors pet. Never been in the field in her life. I thought I would ask if "Morgan" could have some time doing what she was bred for. They agreed and "Morgan" found me a few roosters on 3 or 4 trips out. She is pretty much a natural. Just another example of a pet being up to the job. I was a bit concerned about firing the shotgun, since she was not at all introduced to it. I didn't want her to be gun shy, so the intent was to let her wander out a ways and fire in the opposite direction and repeat a couple times. Trouble was, she got onto a bird right away and flushed two nice roosters, so it was an immediate trial by fire. Didn't phase her a bit. She went on to find more, so she was invited a few times. The neighbor has a new found taste for wild pheasant.
Here is a shot of "Rio" who is an outdoor farm dog - a pet, but not a house dog. "Rio" is amazing and leaves the yard to hunt with anybody that even remotely looks like they might be hunting. Another natural hunter with no training but does it all and very well.

Brings to my mind the great story by the late Gene Hill: "Brown Dog"-- My gun dogs have always been house dogs and companions on trips to town, etc. A fine shotgun is an inaminate object by itself, treasured, but when its in the gun safe- well you see where that's going. But how can a man have that bond with his gun dog when he shuts him out of his daily life (other than his job and family duties?)

Yes, of course, a fenced kennel to the dog's security from speeding UPS trucks, etc- but no gun dog of mine ever spent one cold night outdoors, and when out in the daytime, was kenneled in a triple insulated dog house on the leeward side of my pole barn- cement floor, heater in the base of his dog house, and also an electric heated fresh water pan- and no "rinky-dink" orange drop cords, wired to code by an electrical friend underground romex to the box in the pole barn, and GFI protected.

I had a friend lost the best Setter I've seen in years to a electrocution via a improperly wired line to a heater-he has never forgiven himself for allowing that to happen. Hard to say what is the most moving of all the great stories about Man's Best Friend: Corey Ford's "The Road To Tinkhamtown", Ben Hur Lampman's "Where To Bury A Dog", Nash Buckingham's "Not Unsung" or Gene Hills "Old Tom" and "Pepper"--

[Tim Kisieleski]

Dunkle's got Britt's? :shock: That explains alot :knowbetter:

[John Dunkle]

Some beautiful dogs in this thread...!! Anyway, mine are indoor/outdoor dogs. Always have been. I've had the pleasure of working with different breeds for a long time, and while each breed has their own characteristics, my opinion is that for dogs that are house/hunters, ummm - they respond differently to their owners in the field. Just my opinion from working with, training and hunting over a whole lot of dogs, of course.

Anyway - Tim - yes, I do own/train/rescue/hunt over Britts.. Next thing you'll tell me is that you have a GSP or something..?? :) HEH!!!

Best to you!!

And oh - my dogs...

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From the first day I rescued Brie from the kill shelter in Maine:

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And from this summer:

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[Dean Romig]

Pretty Brits John.

Those green pics look like the edge of a salt marsh somewhere . . . hmmm . . . where'd you say that was??

[E Robert Fabian]

Don't be giving away secrets John.

[Dave Suponski]

Great picture's John! God I can,t wait to finally meet that little girl..:)

[John Dunkle]

...Those green pics look like the edge of a salt marsh somewhere . . . hmmm . . . where'd you say that was??Hey Dean!

Yep - they are great salt marshes! They are New England Salt Marshes, which should give you a good idea of their location.. Hope this helps, but - at the same time, I'm quite certain it doesn't.... ;)

John

[Dean Romig]

Curses! Foiled again!-----------:throw:

[Dave Suponski]

Yup,I can just see ya sittin there poundin hell outta that keyboard....:rotf:And Kathy just shakin her head...

[John Dunkle]

.... I can,t wait to finally meet that little girl..:)Just back from a long run/training session today - so I snapped a few pics (with Scott's camera) for you, Dave... It was snowing after the first couple of hours - but they didn't mind ;)

John

[Francis Morin]

That term "Kill Shelters"-- huum, Man's best friend sent to "Death Row" for reasons I can't fathom. One of my all-time favorite of Bob Dylan's many songs is "Shelter from The Storm" so to my way of thinking, a shelter means humane treatment, whether a Misssion in Memphis TN or a Dog Shelter in Bangor- I am pleased to know these great creatures from the Best Day or Lord had on the drawing board of life have a good home and career path with you- and thanks for sharing the great fotos too.:bigbye:

[Tim Kisieleski]

Kill Shelter, what a stupid name. Sweet looking dogs

These are my 2 "rescues"


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Dad, when he didn't forget his gun:banghead:
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The princess, Rigby
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Annie
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A couple of birds we found in New Bruswick
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They have slightly more liberal limits in NB than south of the border
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee306/thuddddddd/NewBrunswick%20%2008/NewBrunwick08060.jpg my slab, Beau did a good job that day

A few of the the ones in Ny
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The slab near the Dover bridge
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Far as yur GSP "shot across the bow" thats a Geoff Pike thing, I mean it's bad enough I have to admit to having a parker now :duck: forget having a "versitile"dog

[Dave Suponski]

Tim,Great pictures and it was good to meet you in NH.Don,t worry one Parker leads to another..and another...and another..etc...etc.

[John Dunkle]

WOW..!!! Great pics of some wonderful dogs!! Thanks for posting them Tim..!!

:cheers:

JD

[Tim Kisieleski]

sorry for getting off topic.....:crying::crying: :p:p

[Dean Romig]

John, would you mind posting pictures with a bit more panorama?
I mean, the Brits are absolutely lovely and the photography is first rate . . .

. . . . but I can't seem to get a fix on where you're hunting. I've got a general idea and I think that is where I set about a dozen coyote traps and I wouldn't want you to accidentally . . . well, you know what I mean.

[John Dunkle]

John, would you mind posting pictures with a bit more panorama?....and I wouldn't want you to accidentally . . . well, you know what I mean.
Dean,

You know - your caring and concern for the well being of my dogs really is heart warming. I can't tell you how much I appreciate that. Frankly, my friend - while we sometimes chide each other in private and public, your caring and concern really is what this forum is all about....

For that - you have my sincerest thanks and have attached a more panoramic image for your use and inspection.

Dean, my sincerest thanks again,

:cheers:

John

[Dean Romig]

Yup, I knew it! See them broken stalks of Timothy grass? . . . well, I bent them down like that to point where one o' my coyote sets was. Sure glad I was able to warn ya like that. Whew!... that was a close one!

Next time will ya elevate the camera angle a mite? . . . please?

[Christopher Lien]

John,
Great images of your Britts in the snow, thanks for posting the photos...
Sharp resolution and strong colors, what type of Camera are you using?

Best, CSL
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[John Dunkle]

Hi CSL!

My sincerest thanks..! I really enjoy photography and have "played at it" for many, many years. Anyway - today I was using my Nikon D200 with an older Nikkor 75-150mm f/3.5. It's manual focus and manual f-stop, since for snow, I usually only shoot snow scenes manually given how most DSLRs blow out scene highlights (same for bird photography in Florida)... I use CS for post processing as well to convert from the NEF (RAW) file...

Anyway - my thanks again CSL - and a wonderful 2010 to you..!

John

[Bill Bolyard]

Dunkle,

If I bring my camera out can you give me some lessons on how to do that manual stuff? I thought I would test your knowledge, do you recognize this bed and what BOD slept in it?

Bolyard

[John Dunkle]

Would be delighted to Bill..! However, some DSLRs are really a pain in "Manual" mode given their layout? That's one of the reasons I like a manual lens on a D200 - in fact - with a manual lens, it can be programmed to "over ride" any settings on the camera? So - if I set f/stop - doesn't really matter the camera mode..

Anyway - about your pic... Wasn't that Herzog's bed being "warmed up"?? Thank gosh we sent Charlie out to clean the birds, so he was no wiser.. Just had a pre-warmed bed :) :)

Best to you Bill!

JD

[Christopher Lien]

Hi CSL!

My sincerest thanks..! I really enjoy photography and have "played at it" for many, many years. Anyway - today I was using my Nikon D200 with an older Nikkor 75-150mm f/3.5. It's manual focus and manual f-stop.

Anyway - my thanks again CSL - and a wonderful 2010 to you..!

John
John,
I have used an older Nikon for years, and when I had time to get everything right manually I've achieved some great results with 50mm & 135mm Nikkor lenses... These days seems like the film cameras are quickly becoming dinosaurs, but I still like using my early Nikon ~ old habits, well you know... When on the fly and in a hurry I grab my Son's Canon EOS Rebel Xti, it's a good camera and does very well for a modern day digital.

Best to You as well in 2010...... CSL
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[John Dunkle]

Wow - you and I certainly see eye to eye!!! In fact - I still shoot a LOT of film (B&W mostly, as I do my own developing and then scan with a K/M 5400II or Coolscan V ED))..! I still use my F3s and FAs quite a bit - but have a bunch of Nikon Film bodies and older glass I bought when DSLRs and AF/VR lenses became the Nikon "crowd" favorites. As well - I don't need to expound on the virtues of shooting manually, as you already understand... there is just something about film that digital can't replicate...

My best to you, Sir - and keep shooting!!

:cheers:

John

[Jack Cronkhite]

CHARLIE - season long over but nose won't quit. Gotta love that in a bird dog.
http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/cpg1410/albums/userpics/28884/normal_IMG_5444sgw.jpg


Just heard the Parker. My turn now. (CHARLIE dreaming about next season)
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The dream becomes more and more realistic. Just a little further and I'll have it

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