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A 20 gauge Superposed is a rare gun. I thought the 8 gauge prohibition was a 1918 thing. I don't know much about all that.
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Are we shooting 8-gauge guns?
From pages 163-164 of "The Best of Nash Buckingham": In the early 1890's --trombone-action repeaters--- carrying 6 shells apiece-- quickly infiltrated the ranks of sportsmen and market hunters.--- By1912-1913, when the Weeks-McLean Bill and Lucy Act appeared, it had become obvious that wildfowl populations------ were doomed unless remedial measures were taken. Federal bag limits of 25 ducks per day and 8 geese-- with 90 day open seasons---- were clapped on. To make assurance doubly sure, from the market-shooting slant, the good old 8 bore was banished. The lighter, faster-shooting pump guns and auto-loaders---- were not only allowed to continue, but made the watchword for advertising: 'Shoot more, shoot faster and kill more'. Putting away the 8 bore probably seemed the right thing to do to disenfranchise the market gunners."
The late Nash B. wrote this for Gun Digest in 1960. If he were still with us today, I wonder what he would think of: Steel shot, choke tubes, over-bored 12 gauges with 3.5" chambers, black synthetic stocks and camo-sprayed barrels, battery powered decoys and electronic callers. In my experience, shooting a std. 12 gauge Model 12, plugged, the third shot is mainly for finishing a cripple, once you have fired the first shot, the incoming birds flare at the sound. I would have very much liked to have seen Captain Harold Money shoot his Model 1897 on decoying ducks, as described in Nash's best known story--
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From what I recall, the 1918 law only banned guns larger than 10 gauge, the selling of migratory game, and gunning at night.
It was the 1935 laws that banned more than three shots, baiting, and live decoys. That's memory, I didn't look it up, so I could be wrong. DLH
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I once skulled into a raft of divers including a couple Canvasbacks. My partner and I each shot the three rounds from the autoloaders and reloaded and emptied again. We could have probably done this a third time but we had a lot of dead ducks on the water. I have a nice Bull Can mounted on my wall from this skull.
I have also been picking up decoys and had geese want to land next to me. Sometimes birds do have bird brains. Mark
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Mark,
I've seen ducks land in the decoys as we were throwing them out during broad daylight. Sometimes they just want to decoy and nothing will stop them. One of the wildest ones I ever saw was Kaas and I out with Nathan on Lake St. Clair. Kaas is normally a murderous shot, but everybody has a bad day and he was having a tough one. A single black duck (Yes a black!) was decoying in and he took two shots at it missing with both barrels. Bird never missed a wing beat, just kept on coming like nothing had happened. I could barely fire from pure amazement but did manage to take the shot and kill the bird. I had in my mind it was going to be a half grown young of the year duck when we picked it up. I was wrong, a big old black duck drake. Guess he'd just had enough of living....... Destry
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Hemmingway's Shotguns
I was just in NY City at the Beretta store and was amazed to find one of Hemingway's O/U Beretta displayed in the store. I was very pleased apparently he must have owned it while living in Key West for they said he bird hunted in Cuba with it. A must see if you are in NY City.
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08-06-2012, 08:01 PM | #9 | ||||||
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I think Jim Austin owned that Beretta years ago and had it for sale at Kittery Point.
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Duck shooting can be different. Sometimes several/many come in if you are shooting from a blind with good deeks. You might cuss when you run out of shells. Usually, however; two is fine and reason for celebration. The only time I would actually need to fill the magazine on my model 12, 97 or Auto 5 is when a mob or crazed people are assaulting my home or business. A belt fed weapon might be better. |
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