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12-03-2023, 11:35 AM | #3 | ||||||
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I think Dave "Researcher" Noreen will be able to pinpoint it for us.
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12-03-2023, 01:07 PM | #4 | ||||||
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From the get go our North American ammunition companies offered the 28-gauge in two lengths. The "standard" shell was 2 1/2-inch with a load of 1 3/4 drams of bulk smokeless powder, or 14 grains of dense smokeless powders such as Infallible or Ballistite, pushing 5/8-ounce of shot. Or, a slightly hotter load of 2 drams of bulk smokeless powder, or 16 grains of dense smokeless powders such as Infallible or Ballistite, pushing the same 5/8-ounce of shot.
28-gauge Bulk Smokeless Powder Loads 1915-16.jpeg 28-gauge Dense Smokeless Powder Loads 1915-16 Infallible or Ballistite.jpg NITRO CLUB 28-ga 1 3-4 dram, 5-8 ounce.jpg TARGET 28-ga 2 7-8 inch.jpg Those were the loads offered until 1931. In his 1910 book Chas. Askins wrote of hand loading 2 1/8-dram 3/4-ounce loads in 2 7/8-inch cases for his heavy 30-inch barrel Parker Bros. 28-gauge. In 1931, Western Cartridge Co. finally got around to applying progressive burning smokeless powder to the 28-gauge, bringing out their high velocity Super-X 28-gauge load with a 3/4-ounce payload, put up in the 2 7/8-inch shell. Super-X 28-gauge, 2 7-8-inch, #6 Chilled Shot.jpg NID 28-ga Field & Stream April 1932.jpg The Remington era Parker specification sheets, reproduced in The Parker Story, show the 28-gauge to have a 2 13/16-inch chamber intended for the 2 7/8-inch shell. Remington Specification Sheet GHE 28-ga highlighted.jpg In the later 1930s the companies were putting out 28-gauge Skeet loads in both 2 1/2-inch 5/8-ounce -- Xpert 28-gauge, SKEET LOAD, 2 1-2 inch.jpg and the Western Super-X, Remington Nitro Express, Winchester Super-Speed and Peters High Velocity 28-gauge 2 7/8-inch 3/4-ounce loads with #9 shot were marked Skeet. Just before WW-II the companies began putting out 28-gauge Skeet loads in a 2 3/4-inch shell -- Xpert 28-gauge, SKEET LOAD, 2 3-4 inch, 3, Aug 2019.jpg Shortly after WW-II the manufacturers settled on the 2 3/4-inch 28-gauge shell. |
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12-03-2023, 01:14 PM | #5 | ||||||
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Ask and ye shall receive. Thanks Dave.
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12-03-2023, 02:14 PM | #6 | ||||||
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I looked through the pictures I've saved of late Remington Parkers with the grade, gauge and shell length stamped on the side of the lug. I found I have every gauge but 28-gauge.
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12-03-2023, 02:37 PM | #7 | ||||||
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In the current Morphy auction, there is a (purported to be the sole 30" CHE in 28ga.) Meriden made gun, with PGCA letter indicating a 1929 mfg. date, with 2 3/4" chambers.
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12-03-2023, 03:06 PM | #8 | ||||||
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Which all goes to show that Parker Brothers would build a gun to just about any desire within reason and good taste.
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12-04-2023, 10:18 AM | #9 | ||||||
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Gentlemen, thank you so much for sharing your expertise. Greatly appreciated.
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12-04-2023, 11:39 AM | #10 | ||||||
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Edgar, with those 30" barrels in 28 gauge I would more likely expect to see 2 7/8" chambers...
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