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H & D Folsom Baker Batavia Leader
Unread 03-09-2023, 03:32 PM   #1
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Default H & D Folsom Baker Batavia Leader

I see this newly listed, low serial number, H & D Folsom Batavia Leader that appears to have mono-bloc barrels.

https://www.gunsinternational.com/gu...n_id=102240039

None of the others I've ever seen have mono-bloc barrels.
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not a bad looking old gun ...charlie
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Mono block or sleeved
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Default Mono block or sleeved

Could they be sleeved Dave?
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If it wasn't built that way, I can't imagine someone springing for the cost of sleeving such a low priced gun as a Folsom Batavia Leader. It is assumed that the H & D Folsom Arms Co. Bakers were built at their Crescent Fire Arms Co. plant in Norwich, Conn. At the same time nearby in Norwich, Davis - Warner Arms Corp. was making their Davis doubles with mono-bloc barrels --

C835 01 PREMIER 16-gauge 28-inch.jpg

Wonder if there may have been some cross-pollination?
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with those bright case colors, maybe worth a restoration to someone as a family piece??

or a gunsmith's project to learn on?
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https://parkerguns.org/forums/album....ictureid=13297

Today I noticed this old album showing a late paragon with a crossbolt. I had not seen this feature before. ?
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Brian, as I recall the Folsom Paragons had the crossbolt and lower grades did not. Many of those Folsom Paragons had hidden crossbolts.
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The gun in question has markings ahead of the monobloc joint "C" and "F", maybe cylinder and full. Isn't a choke marking unusual on this variation? Would the marking suggest a Lefever or maybe a European monobloc?
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Many of the Folsom Baker/Batavia guns I've saved pictures of are marked M on the right and F on the left barrel flat.
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