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Unread 03-04-2023, 05:17 AM   #1
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Saw this stuff on GI maybe two years ago and was only mildly intrested about possibly trying some all brass 10’s but since I saw I could get all brass 8’s Parker head stamped no less I thought maybe trying some slug loads might be Intresting !
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Saw this stuff on GI maybe two years ago and was only mildly intrested about possibly trying some all brass 10’s but since I saw I could get all brass 8’s Parker head stamped no less I thought maybe trying some slug loads might be Intresting !
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looks good to me...this should make a better round than just sticking the ball down into the case...looks tough....charlie
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Those'll take that buck mink out of the equation!! The chickens will rejoice.
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That’s the way the Brits did it in years past . I’d prefer some type thing to make a slight radius on top and crimp the way factory ammunition was at the time . Like pictured below .
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If I do this I have no intention of glueing the top wad in etc . I want the metal crimped .
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I did it a couple of years back with 12ga shells. I've seen it referred to as a swedged crimp - slight roll over without the over. If I remember I used a Lee reloader. One of those chromed models in a small box with about 4 or 5 attachments. The crimping tube has a smooth taper to the one end. Because stack height is so important, it's hard to do. Good luck. Maybe a Mec SS could be made to work. Or the final stage in a progressive press.
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I would think some type of conical rotary tool in a drill press would do this to brass no problem. maybe even a light touch with a roll crimp tool.
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I have the 8 gauge hulls along with most other gauges. I also have one of the Paradox crimpers for a 1-58" 20 gauge chamber in a rifled Sauer cape gun. The 8 gauge is a hoot with a full bore size ball (which are available already cast) since my 8 gauge is an 1870 single with no choke. It's really accurate for a round ball.

I am not really keen on the paradox crimp (or the roll crimping either). I my experience, neither works very well without annealing the case mouth area. This wouldn't be a problem except that, like rifle brass forming, with that much movement it needs to be annealed after each shot. If I had a Paradox gun, I might load some for display and show, or if I wanted to hunt with them to insure the load didn't shift I might special load for that. For everyday use, I would strongly recommend the glue in based on my experience. By the way, the crimper shown is specific as to the length. If you anneal, I am not sure that a regular crimp starter wouldn't work.
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I have the 8 gauge hulls along with most other gauges. I also have one of the Paradox crimpers for a 1-58" 20 gauge chamber in a rifled Sauer cape gun. The 8 gauge is a hoot with a full bore size ball (which are available already cast) since my 8 gauge is an 1870 single with no choke. It's really accurate for a round ball.

I am not really keen on the paradox crimp (or the roll crimping either). I my experience, neither works very well without annealing the case mouth area. This wouldn't be a problem except that, like rifle brass forming, with that much movement it needs to be annealed after each shot. If I had a Paradox gun, I might load some for display and show, or if I wanted to hunt with them to insure the load didn't shift I might special load for that. For everyday use, I would strongly recommend the glue in based on my experience. By the way, the crimper shown is specific as to the length. If you anneal, I am not sure that a regular crimp starter wouldn't work.
You’re probably correct , but I wanna possibly do the brass shell thing with crimped brass . I don’t even entertain the idea of glueing a top wad etc that whole idea while maybe working well leaves a bad taste in my mouth so to speak . I’ve killed with roundballs in roll crimped black plastic Remington hulls using roundballs once and buckshot once . At present I’ve got a 730 grain .775” hollow base slug mold I wanna use on a deer . Accuracy for this slug in my smoothbore barrels is thirty yards possibly 35 or 40 on the outside . But typically I don’t try a shot on a deer with any shotgun much over 25 yards . We’ve got a Manton fully rifled hammer 8 bore double in the shop I’d love to buy and mess with and of course kill a deer , but the asking price is a BIG deterrent .
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